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[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe after we see that new Snapdragon on Windows PC, and enough games run on ARM Windows, then Valve would consider switching chip.

I don't see why they would lead the way on that front, in addition to the software compatibility layer between Linux and Windows.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (9 children)

While Linux runs fine on ARM like no games do and what I have seen from the Apple ARM laptops playing X86 games isn't quite close to being there and the Steam Deck is made with gaming in mind so it doesn't make much sense IMHO. Plus the added complexity of 2 translation layers and the potential issues different games will have there.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Check out box86. There are videos of people running various games with it.

I posted a link in this thread of someone playing world of Warcraft on a pi 4.

I’m not saying that it’s ready to go today, but in a few years it will be great. Especially if valve develops for it the way they did it it proton.

I agree that translation layers will slow things down, but I don’t think it will be too terribly slow especially as more powerful chips come out.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I'm sure it can run games but it took like half a decade for Proton to be a seemless experience for the majority of games and having 2 translation layers on top of each other sounds like it could take even longer to be on the level Proton already is. Plus there's the added chance for instability of newly released games. The efficiency from ARM seems like a very minor advantage when looking at those downsides.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Both of your downsides are just things you think. Let’s wait a few years and see what the software can do.

There is a video somewhere of someone using it to play Skyrim on an old android. I don’t think it’s a bad as you believe it to be.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Both WoW and Skyrim are over a decade old, I'm more worried about newly released games but yea, of course those issues are what I think, I'm not clearvoyent. I have seen the x86 emulation on apple's ARM for modern games and I'm basing my reluctance on that but of course I can't know for sure, I'm just saying the efficiency is probably not worth it.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

The same thing could be said about games in the early days of wine and proton. Now most thing run without any trouble.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

Oh yea, ARM could be fully capable of emulating x86 in a decade but I don't see it being worth it in the near future for a handheld gaming machine for some gains in efficiency. Making a consumer oriented gaming device a canary in a coal mine for ARM translation sounds like an awful decision for Valve.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

I think they could start work on the software now and even publicly support it. They don’t have to sell arm hardware yet, but it seems that things are heading away from x86 slowly.

I don’t know that it will be ARM as there has been interest in RISC. I think k companies will move to that and not have to deal with licensing. But performance will have to catch up to ARM.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Maybe, but this was all about a new snapdragon processor being released and if the next steam deck should be ARM based, which would be a terrible decision in my opinion. I have no personal attachment to x86 as long as the next mass adobted architecture is backwards compadible for older software.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago

Sorry if I was not clear. I wasn’t saying the next steam deck should switch to arm. Just down the line, they may switch to arm once the software is ready.