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Success might eventually breed a monster but let's cross that bridge when we come to it like we are doing with Google and FB etc. by seeking alternatives.
Plus, I'm not sure a monster in the fediverse is nearly as bad a thing when you can easily jump to a different provider.
The risk is that Mozilla is in a position to add features and stability at a rate that smaller developers cannot possibly replicate. By doing so they risk becoming the defacto standard (embrace/extend). Then they get to dictate what the entire platform should or should not do. And you’re either on board or left in the dust. And if Mozilla decides that moderating a social network is too much of a liability, then we’re at extinguish.
To be frank, I’m so jaded by big players in this late stage capitalist world that I don’t trust anyone I might otherwise be fine with, like Mozilla.
I think the problem there is that if the fediverse were to be adopted by the masses the general population wouldn't pay attention/wouldn't even care and just use whatever instance was most convenient for them, and if an insurance has a large proportion of users it inherently has power over the entire network
If meta entered properly like everyone thought they might, they could massively control the entire fediverse by threatening defederation with instances that don't comply with their rules. Because they have so many users and generate so much content no instance wants to be cut off
That example probably wouldn't work for the fediverse as it stands right now as we're pretty much all nerds, dislike companies like meta and probably wouldn't enjoy the content generated by its users anyway but it stands as an example
My "secret" is I'm fine defederating with fb or any other larger player because nerds are all I really want to socialize with anyway. Those of us here would lose nothing by fb joining and defederating.
I get that, that was the whole point of that comment is the likes of us wouldn't want to interact with Facebook but as I said that's just an example.
Imagine the chaos if Reddit implemented activitypub, or discord with their threads feature, or even just a new instance like world that snaps up a lot of users for one reason or another, plays it safe for a while and acts benign until they've got the bulk of the users and then starts imposing their rules on other instances