▲ 334 ▼ Palestine-Israel Crisis Megathread II (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago* by jackmarxist@lemmy.ml [M] to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 146 comments fedilink hide all child comments This is the second megathread for discussion regarding the crisis. Informal/Satirical news sources are not allowed on the main feed of the community but you are free to post them in this thread. Please remember that all community and instance rules apply to this thread hence keep is civil.
[+] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -10 points 2 years ago (9 children) We can't change the past. What should Israel do now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) So you didn't bother to read my comment then? If you're too lazy to do that, why the fuck should I put any effort beyond this in replying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -6 points 2 years ago (7 children) I did. Replacing the government with one less bad would be good, but what should such a theoretical good government do in response to the Hamas attack? For example, I think more fewer air strikes and more ground combat would be better for minimizing civilian casualties, though more Israeli soldiers would die as a result. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (6 children) Restore Palestine to the 1917 borders. Grant all Palestinians equal rights within those borders. All zionists who were involved in perpetrating war crimes either directly, or indirectly via policy, to face trial at the Hague permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) That would desolve the state of Israel wouldn't it? That isn't really tennable for an Israeli government to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really don't care whats tenable for a state born out of terrorism that has been carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous people for the last 70 plus years. They have no fucking legitimacy and as much right to continue to exist as the NSDAP government after WW2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (8 children) So you didn't bother to read my comment then? If you're too lazy to do that, why the fuck should I put any effort beyond this in replying? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -6 points 2 years ago (7 children) I did. Replacing the government with one less bad would be good, but what should such a theoretical good government do in response to the Hamas attack? For example, I think more fewer air strikes and more ground combat would be better for minimizing civilian casualties, though more Israeli soldiers would die as a result. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (6 children) Restore Palestine to the 1917 borders. Grant all Palestinians equal rights within those borders. All zionists who were involved in perpetrating war crimes either directly, or indirectly via policy, to face trial at the Hague permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) That would desolve the state of Israel wouldn't it? That isn't really tennable for an Israeli government to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really don't care whats tenable for a state born out of terrorism that has been carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous people for the last 70 plus years. They have no fucking legitimacy and as much right to continue to exist as the NSDAP government after WW2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -6 points 2 years ago (7 children) I did. Replacing the government with one less bad would be good, but what should such a theoretical good government do in response to the Hamas attack? For example, I think more fewer air strikes and more ground combat would be better for minimizing civilian casualties, though more Israeli soldiers would die as a result. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (6 children) Restore Palestine to the 1917 borders. Grant all Palestinians equal rights within those borders. All zionists who were involved in perpetrating war crimes either directly, or indirectly via policy, to face trial at the Hague permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) That would desolve the state of Israel wouldn't it? That isn't really tennable for an Israeli government to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really don't care whats tenable for a state born out of terrorism that has been carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous people for the last 70 plus years. They have no fucking legitimacy and as much right to continue to exist as the NSDAP government after WW2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (6 children) Restore Palestine to the 1917 borders. Grant all Palestinians equal rights within those borders. All zionists who were involved in perpetrating war crimes either directly, or indirectly via policy, to face trial at the Hague permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) That would desolve the state of Israel wouldn't it? That isn't really tennable for an Israeli government to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really don't care whats tenable for a state born out of terrorism that has been carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous people for the last 70 plus years. They have no fucking legitimacy and as much right to continue to exist as the NSDAP government after WW2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (5 children) That would desolve the state of Israel wouldn't it? That isn't really tennable for an Israeli government to do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really don't care whats tenable for a state born out of terrorism that has been carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous people for the last 70 plus years. They have no fucking legitimacy and as much right to continue to exist as the NSDAP government after WW2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (4 children) I really don't care whats tenable for a state born out of terrorism that has been carrying out ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous people for the last 70 plus years. They have no fucking legitimacy and as much right to continue to exist as the NSDAP government after WW2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children) Do you think there are any solutions short of that? Because saying Israel should just dissolve is supremely unhelpful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) They could allow Palestinians full rights and statehood in Israel, with protections from the racist inhabitants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) To clarify, are you saying give the West Bank and Gaza strip statehood as a Nation of Palisade separate from Israel, or give the people there citizenship as Israelis? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Israel has no intentions of backing down, so in my feeble mind they should be given Israeli citizenship with extra protections. permalink fedilink source parent