Since October 7, more than 3,257 children have been reported killed, including at least 3,195 in Gaza, 33 in the West Bank, and 29 in Israel, according to the Ministries of Health in Gaza and Israel respectively. The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

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[–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can just pray that war stops asap, cant see innocents dying...

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Let’s pray for hamas immediate surrender and release of the hostages. EDIT: looks like the tankies are backing hamas.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Let's hope Hamas releases the hostages and the state with one of the strongest military in the world backed by the most powerful nation in the world stop bombing kids that they have crammed into a tiny strip of land, and start working only actually solving the root of problem. Hamas' greatest recruiter and radicaliser is Israel. The only side with the power to stop these atrocities from continuing for decades to come is Israel.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    They are not bombing kids. they are bombing terrorists.

    EDIT: TinyPizza, I am not affected by hamas propaganda so I'm not confused, I don't need to reorient to align with hamas.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What a trash can of a heart you must have to call literal children for terrorists just because they were born on the wrong side of a border.

    It's possible to be against Hamas' terrorist attacks and still have sympathy with the innocent civilians in Palestine you know?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I don’t conflate having sympathy with accusing israel of bombing children. They didn’t consider the children as targets they were collateral damage. But I can see how you feel they actually aimed for the children.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 2 years ago

    That didn't happen.
    And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
    And if it was, that's not a big deal.
    And if it is, that's not my fault.
    And if it was, I didn't mean it.
    And if I did, you deserved it.

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  • [+] -15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    After Hamas' actions on the 7th I don't see Israel stepping back. Their previous attempts at curtailing Hamas were already under criticism for not going far enough, and that was before the largest attack in decades had occurred

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    A couple of videos I watched on the subject seem to clearly point at Israel being the aggressor. The existence of Hamas was directly caused by persistent aggression from the Isreali government.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv1SpwwJEW8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWvSxSEZ4WM

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Fantastic Videos, and yes Israel has given more than enough cause for Palestinians to act against them. But none of them excuse the crimes that Hamas have committed both on Oct 7th and in the past as well

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Idk, I think decades of serious suffering, oppression, and the looming threat of the annihilation of your people seems like just about as much justification as one could have. I feel like, to say otherwise is to tell the palestinians to shut up and take their genocide with a smile. Peace negotiations have and will get them nowhere, violence, as extreme as they can muster, is the only option they have left. Yet, it pales in comparison to what can be done back to them, and without intervention the state of palestine and its people will cease to be.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    Hamas aren't doing it for the Palestinian people, they aren't the Palestinian liberators. Just tools to be used by aggressive Islamic nations like Iran to attack a Jewish state. Doesn't mean Palestinians aren't going Hamas in order to do such a thing but they then just become pawns in a conflict between two very right wing, authoritarian, theocratic sides.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    yes genocide as a response to genocide is the only solution /s

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Is that really how you read my comment, and the situation? Hamas couldn't genocide shit, even if they wanted to. These countries, these people, are not on even ground. And if Hamas didn't do something extreme, we wouldn't be talking about it, no one would give a shit, and they'd go quietly into the history books like so many before them.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You are not a psychic, you can make any prediction you want but it will never achieve clairvoyance

    Mass violence is NEVER a counter to mass violence

    Was nothing learned from the non-violence movements?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The people of Gaza tried to protest in a non violent march in 2018. The IDF responded by shooting thousands of civilians including women, children, and journalists.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    non violent march in 2018 "Most of the demonstrators demonstrated peacefully far from the border fence.. Nevertheless, groups consisting mainly of young men approached the fence and committed acts of violence directed towards the Israeli side" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_protests)

    And they will need to keep approaching Nonviolence. It is the only solution that is viable for a long lasting peace

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Apartheid is maintained through violence. If you want a non-violent solution to the conflict then Israel has to stop violently enforcing its apartheid system. Palestinians have no say in that decision.

    We don’t even need a counterfactual to prove it. Gaza without Hamas would just be the West Bank. People in the West Bank are still suffering under the violence of Israeli occupation and have been for decades.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The actual looming threat that Hamas attacked over was the PA enacting a two-state solution with Israel.

    Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians at all

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Fuck off.

    Netanyahu said “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. 1 Samuel 15:3 ‘Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass’," .

    You keep quacking like a nazi duck man...

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    He says, unironically, on an article about 3000 dead children. Gross.
    How many children do you think the critics will accept as enough? Or does that number not matter because they aren't Israeli children?

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Its a war I don't know what the fuck you want

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Literally the post we are on:

    The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

    I want them to stop the wholesale slaughter of kids. This barbarism is not how a "just" war is conducted, and especially not a "defensive" one.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Stop reposting obvious Hamas lies.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    To repeat what I said to your statement higher up:
    A 100 year old charity whose goal is to save children from war is a terrorist group Hamas? Are you ok?

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  • [+] -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    just fine, here ya go

    The United Nations and other international institutions and experts, as well as Palestinian authorities in the West Bank — rivals of Hamas — say the Gaza ministry has long made a good-faith effort to account for the dead under the most difficult conditions. “The numbers may not be perfectly accurate on a minute-to-minute basis,” said Michael Ryan, of the World Health Organization’s Health Emergencies Program. “But they largely reflect the level of death and injury.”
    In previous wars, the ministry's counts have held up to U.N. scrutiny, independent investigations and even Israel's tallies.

    Furthermore

    WHO WORKS IN THE MINISTRY?
    Hamas, as Gaza's ruling authority, exerts control over the Health Ministry. But it's different than political and security agencies that Hamas runs.
    The Palestinian Authority, which controlled Gaza before Hamas overran the area in 2007, retains power over health and education services in Gaza, though it's based in the occupied West Bank. The ministry is a mix of recent Hamas hires and older civil servants affiliated with the secular nationalist Fatah party, officials say.

    If you opened your eyes to the rest of the thread you'd see this, but your special so I made a point to repeat it just for you.

    Good enough for the UN, the WHO, the AP and prior to the mass bombing campaign, Israel itself.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

    The killing of kids is terrible

    Israel's goal of Hamas' destruction makes it unavoidable

    Without a change in Gaza further attacks from Hamas are unavoidable

    And unless there is a government in Israel that stops the settlement and incursions of Radical Israelis in the west bank there will be no peace

    There is no true and just change here at this time that fixes everything

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    He says, unironically, on an article about as he justifies 3000 dead children. Gross.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    He says, unironically as he justifies the beheading of children. Gross. /s

    See how that sounds? Stop misappropriating people's character

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, wheres the evidence of that? I know exactly just how it sounds. It sounds like a poor excuse for the murder 0f 3000 children. You do you though. I don't go around trying to soften mass child murder.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Softening the murder of children with the murder of other children would be an illogical excuse

    The evidence of such you know cannot be posted here

    I only leave this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/hamas-babies-beheading-kfaz-aza-b2427627.html

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