Since October 7, more than 3,257 children have been reported killed, including at least 3,195 in Gaza, 33 in the West Bank, and 29 in Israel, according to the Ministries of Health in Gaza and Israel respectively. The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

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[–] 13 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

A couple of videos I watched on the subject seem to clearly point at Israel being the aggressor. The existence of Hamas was directly caused by persistent aggression from the Isreali government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv1SpwwJEW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWvSxSEZ4WM

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Fantastic Videos, and yes Israel has given more than enough cause for Palestinians to act against them. But none of them excuse the crimes that Hamas have committed both on Oct 7th and in the past as well

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Idk, I think decades of serious suffering, oppression, and the looming threat of the annihilation of your people seems like just about as much justification as one could have. I feel like, to say otherwise is to tell the palestinians to shut up and take their genocide with a smile. Peace negotiations have and will get them nowhere, violence, as extreme as they can muster, is the only option they have left. Yet, it pales in comparison to what can be done back to them, and without intervention the state of palestine and its people will cease to be.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago

    Hamas aren't doing it for the Palestinian people, they aren't the Palestinian liberators. Just tools to be used by aggressive Islamic nations like Iran to attack a Jewish state. Doesn't mean Palestinians aren't going Hamas in order to do such a thing but they then just become pawns in a conflict between two very right wing, authoritarian, theocratic sides.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    yes genocide as a response to genocide is the only solution /s

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Is that really how you read my comment, and the situation? Hamas couldn't genocide shit, even if they wanted to. These countries, these people, are not on even ground. And if Hamas didn't do something extreme, we wouldn't be talking about it, no one would give a shit, and they'd go quietly into the history books like so many before them.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You are not a psychic, you can make any prediction you want but it will never achieve clairvoyance

    Mass violence is NEVER a counter to mass violence

    Was nothing learned from the non-violence movements?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The people of Gaza tried to protest in a non violent march in 2018. The IDF responded by shooting thousands of civilians including women, children, and journalists.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    non violent march in 2018 "Most of the demonstrators demonstrated peacefully far from the border fence.. Nevertheless, groups consisting mainly of young men approached the fence and committed acts of violence directed towards the Israeli side" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%932019_Gaza_border_protests)

    And they will need to keep approaching Nonviolence. It is the only solution that is viable for a long lasting peace

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Apartheid is maintained through violence. If you want a non-violent solution to the conflict then Israel has to stop violently enforcing its apartheid system. Palestinians have no say in that decision.

    We don’t even need a counterfactual to prove it. Gaza without Hamas would just be the West Bank. People in the West Bank are still suffering under the violence of Israeli occupation and have been for decades.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The actual looming threat that Hamas attacked over was the PA enacting a two-state solution with Israel.

    Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians at all

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Fuck off.

    Netanyahu said “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. 1 Samuel 15:3 ‘Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass’," .

    You keep quacking like a nazi duck man...

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)