▲ 1775 ▼ France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone, spy on people (gazettengr.com) submitted 3 years ago by Rebelappliance@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 298 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] TicklishRocket@lemmy.world 38 points 3 years ago (1 child) Not quite done with the last riot and want a new one it seems. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) They better riot fast. Normalized camera peeking will change the tone there very quickly. People will be stuffing their phones into couches or running water and shit, and some AI will be able to detect patterns of surveillance evasion and they won’t even have to do anything official about it just send the surveillance avoider a message in the form of a camera turning to follow them or something like “hey, we noticed you’re being sus”. And then there will be huge incentive slope toward not avoiding surveillance. So people will have to fall back on hiding their thoughts. And the mental strain will be enormous. And that will sap their fight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cannacheques@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah I feel like all this surveillance normalisation needs to go the other way around, we should be the ones observing our systems and it's outcomes not for a large AI to be observing us as individuals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago Yes! And government employees should be under total surveillance. In return for their temporary expansion of power, they should submit to a temporary reduction in privacy. And that surveillance shouldn’t just go into an archive to be retrieved by subpoena. It should be made available in real time to literally anyone at any time. That’s government transparency in my book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 27 points 3 years ago (1 child) They better riot fast. Normalized camera peeking will change the tone there very quickly. People will be stuffing their phones into couches or running water and shit, and some AI will be able to detect patterns of surveillance evasion and they won’t even have to do anything official about it just send the surveillance avoider a message in the form of a camera turning to follow them or something like “hey, we noticed you’re being sus”. And then there will be huge incentive slope toward not avoiding surveillance. So people will have to fall back on hiding their thoughts. And the mental strain will be enormous. And that will sap their fight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cannacheques@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah I feel like all this surveillance normalisation needs to go the other way around, we should be the ones observing our systems and it's outcomes not for a large AI to be observing us as individuals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago Yes! And government employees should be under total surveillance. In return for their temporary expansion of power, they should submit to a temporary reduction in privacy. And that surveillance shouldn’t just go into an archive to be retrieved by subpoena. It should be made available in real time to literally anyone at any time. That’s government transparency in my book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cannacheques@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah I feel like all this surveillance normalisation needs to go the other way around, we should be the ones observing our systems and it's outcomes not for a large AI to be observing us as individuals permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago Yes! And government employees should be under total surveillance. In return for their temporary expansion of power, they should submit to a temporary reduction in privacy. And that surveillance shouldn’t just go into an archive to be retrieved by subpoena. It should be made available in real time to literally anyone at any time. That’s government transparency in my book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago Yes! And government employees should be under total surveillance. In return for their temporary expansion of power, they should submit to a temporary reduction in privacy. And that surveillance shouldn’t just go into an archive to be retrieved by subpoena. It should be made available in real time to literally anyone at any time. That’s government transparency in my book. permalink fedilink source parent