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Kick tankies out of 196 (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.

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[–] 7 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Neither the anarchist revolutions in Ukraine nor Spain seemed to lack "practical steps"... what they did lack, however, was practical steps for turning into a reactionary elite as soon as they seized power - something the Bolsheviks and their ideological spawn seems to have no problems with.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

    They absolutely did, their inability to coordinate and make compromises during wartime absolutely led to their failures as revolutions.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Oh... being (respectively) stabbed in the back by Bolsheviks and being sabotaged by Stalin had absolutely nothing to do with it, eh?

    No, tankie... I don't think you've read any anarchist literature at all.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    Yes, the Spanish anarchists were unsuccessful because Stalin, and not because they refused to be integrated with the popular front(which even the fucking liberals joined), including militarily until the war was already well lost, which made coordinated actions against the fascists with the popular front impossible

    The lessons of the Spanish civil war dont reflect well on the anarchist movement there.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Yes, the Spanish anarchists were unsuccessful because Stalin

    Yes. That's why, tankie. And no... they didn't lose because they decided not to take orders from your outrageously incompetent and cynical two-faced realpolitking fetish object Stalin.

    Okay?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

    Okay so how much did you actually study the Spanish civil war because this comes off as really ignorant? Like, what books have you read on the subject that have led you to the conclusion that Stalin was controlling all of the Spanish Republicans except for the anarchists? You seem to deify Stalin much more than me, who generally considers him a very flawed leader who was a better revolutionary, but doesn't consider him some octopus with his tentacles in literally everything.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I'm not the one demonstrating weaponized ignorance on the subject, tankie - you are.

    But hey... bring it on.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    But hey… bring it on.

    It is a self dunk to get combative when someone asks you what books you've read on a subject you're opining about

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Why would I compare books with you, tankie? You've already claimed to have read things you so obviously haven't.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Hey, just cause I disagree with their analysis doesn't mean I haven't read it.

    For example, forming a secret vanguard party isn't the way to anarchism, and the Kronstadt rebellion wasn't the pinnacle of revolution, even though the Soviets fucked up their response to it.

    And you would know what I'm referring to if you've read some of their main works.

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