▲ 142 ▼ Self-styled “anarchists” decrying revolutionary violence as “authoritarian” and “oppressive” are so on my nerves. (lemmygrad.ml) submitted 2 years ago by calcifiedNeurotic@lemmygrad.ml to c/leftistinfighting@lemmygrad.ml 147 comments fedilink hide all child comments Do they think the Catalan Anarchists had no bourgeois blood on their hands? Do they think the Makhnovites never executed counterrevolutionaries? Fucking idiots. I preferred it when anarchists actually threw pipe bombs.
[+] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most Trots I know are the real deal, not just knowingly spoofing. They're usually well meaning, just misled and unable to get past their western indoctrination. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] relay@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) I don't understand Trots. They don't like the USSR but they seem to be supportive of most other socialist projects other than China. Its also wierd that many neocons used to be trots. Do they think that globalization is a way for a world government to occur so that one government can be used to build socialism? IDK permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago It's simple: does the state pose a political threat to the US? Yes? Then believe most of what the State Department says about it, just like they used to with the USSR (and still do retrospectively). permalink fedilink source parent [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) My best interpretation is that they see global hegemony as the solution to conflict by globalizing commerce and industry. Thus, they need a powerful state to wage such hegemony. I mean, GWB is the canonical elected neocon, and look at his not-so-small-gubmint DOHS or the TSA. Or conservatives general obsession with strong military and foreign encroachments. This put the neocons at odds with the libertarians regarding "foreign entanglements" -- instead of entanglement, neocons see hegemony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 8 points 2 years ago While not necessarily canonical, the scene in the movie "W" where Cheney presents his plan for the Iraq War as a domino fall to lead to further expanded dominance in the Middle East, with his prognostication that "nobody will fuck with us then." The notion that Americanism is the world's savior, thus, we must provide Americanism to the world, by trade/legal/military force as necessary. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's not too often we get mastodon users in lemmy threads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 4 points 2 years ago It's definitely an experience. But hey, it's supposed to work, right? I shouldn't have to have *both* a Mastodon *and* a Lemmy account, if federation means anything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can we use these accounts to look at mastodon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago Kinda. I think mastodon hashtags can be used to post from mastodon to lemmy communities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago Same here. I guess it's a confusing place to be, you feel like you're doing well meaning stuff but because you're ideologically brainwashed and prohibited from making logical dialectical conclusions nothing really makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sinister@hexbear.net [B] 11 points 2 years ago Most Trots are incredibly well-read and very eloquent, but their conclusions are like incredibly uh “stupid”. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Most Trots I know are the real deal, not just knowingly spoofing. They're usually well meaning, just misled and unable to get past their western indoctrination. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] relay@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) I don't understand Trots. They don't like the USSR but they seem to be supportive of most other socialist projects other than China. Its also wierd that many neocons used to be trots. Do they think that globalization is a way for a world government to occur so that one government can be used to build socialism? IDK permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago It's simple: does the state pose a political threat to the US? Yes? Then believe most of what the State Department says about it, just like they used to with the USSR (and still do retrospectively). permalink fedilink source parent [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) My best interpretation is that they see global hegemony as the solution to conflict by globalizing commerce and industry. Thus, they need a powerful state to wage such hegemony. I mean, GWB is the canonical elected neocon, and look at his not-so-small-gubmint DOHS or the TSA. Or conservatives general obsession with strong military and foreign encroachments. This put the neocons at odds with the libertarians regarding "foreign entanglements" -- instead of entanglement, neocons see hegemony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 8 points 2 years ago While not necessarily canonical, the scene in the movie "W" where Cheney presents his plan for the Iraq War as a domino fall to lead to further expanded dominance in the Middle East, with his prognostication that "nobody will fuck with us then." The notion that Americanism is the world's savior, thus, we must provide Americanism to the world, by trade/legal/military force as necessary. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's not too often we get mastodon users in lemmy threads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 4 points 2 years ago It's definitely an experience. But hey, it's supposed to work, right? I shouldn't have to have *both* a Mastodon *and* a Lemmy account, if federation means anything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can we use these accounts to look at mastodon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago Kinda. I think mastodon hashtags can be used to post from mastodon to lemmy communities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago Same here. I guess it's a confusing place to be, you feel like you're doing well meaning stuff but because you're ideologically brainwashed and prohibited from making logical dialectical conclusions nothing really makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] relay@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) I don't understand Trots. They don't like the USSR but they seem to be supportive of most other socialist projects other than China. Its also wierd that many neocons used to be trots. Do they think that globalization is a way for a world government to occur so that one government can be used to build socialism? IDK permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago It's simple: does the state pose a political threat to the US? Yes? Then believe most of what the State Department says about it, just like they used to with the USSR (and still do retrospectively). permalink fedilink source parent [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) My best interpretation is that they see global hegemony as the solution to conflict by globalizing commerce and industry. Thus, they need a powerful state to wage such hegemony. I mean, GWB is the canonical elected neocon, and look at his not-so-small-gubmint DOHS or the TSA. Or conservatives general obsession with strong military and foreign encroachments. This put the neocons at odds with the libertarians regarding "foreign entanglements" -- instead of entanglement, neocons see hegemony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 8 points 2 years ago While not necessarily canonical, the scene in the movie "W" where Cheney presents his plan for the Iraq War as a domino fall to lead to further expanded dominance in the Middle East, with his prognostication that "nobody will fuck with us then." The notion that Americanism is the world's savior, thus, we must provide Americanism to the world, by trade/legal/military force as necessary. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's not too often we get mastodon users in lemmy threads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 4 points 2 years ago It's definitely an experience. But hey, it's supposed to work, right? I shouldn't have to have *both* a Mastodon *and* a Lemmy account, if federation means anything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can we use these accounts to look at mastodon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago Kinda. I think mastodon hashtags can be used to post from mastodon to lemmy communities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago Same here. I guess it's a confusing place to be, you feel like you're doing well meaning stuff but because you're ideologically brainwashed and prohibited from making logical dialectical conclusions nothing really makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago It's simple: does the state pose a political threat to the US? Yes? Then believe most of what the State Department says about it, just like they used to with the USSR (and still do retrospectively). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 11 points 2 years ago (2 children) My best interpretation is that they see global hegemony as the solution to conflict by globalizing commerce and industry. Thus, they need a powerful state to wage such hegemony. I mean, GWB is the canonical elected neocon, and look at his not-so-small-gubmint DOHS or the TSA. Or conservatives general obsession with strong military and foreign encroachments. This put the neocons at odds with the libertarians regarding "foreign entanglements" -- instead of entanglement, neocons see hegemony. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 8 points 2 years ago While not necessarily canonical, the scene in the movie "W" where Cheney presents his plan for the Iraq War as a domino fall to lead to further expanded dominance in the Middle East, with his prognostication that "nobody will fuck with us then." The notion that Americanism is the world's savior, thus, we must provide Americanism to the world, by trade/legal/military force as necessary. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's not too often we get mastodon users in lemmy threads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 4 points 2 years ago It's definitely an experience. But hey, it's supposed to work, right? I shouldn't have to have *both* a Mastodon *and* a Lemmy account, if federation means anything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can we use these accounts to look at mastodon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago Kinda. I think mastodon hashtags can be used to post from mastodon to lemmy communities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 8 points 2 years ago While not necessarily canonical, the scene in the movie "W" where Cheney presents his plan for the Iraq War as a domino fall to lead to further expanded dominance in the Middle East, with his prognostication that "nobody will fuck with us then." The notion that Americanism is the world's savior, thus, we must provide Americanism to the world, by trade/legal/military force as necessary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's not too often we get mastodon users in lemmy threads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 4 points 2 years ago It's definitely an experience. But hey, it's supposed to work, right? I shouldn't have to have *both* a Mastodon *and* a Lemmy account, if federation means anything. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can we use these accounts to look at mastodon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago Kinda. I think mastodon hashtags can be used to post from mastodon to lemmy communities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 4 points 2 years ago It's definitely an experience. But hey, it's supposed to work, right? I shouldn't have to have *both* a Mastodon *and* a Lemmy account, if federation means anything. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can we use these accounts to look at mastodon? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago Kinda. I think mastodon hashtags can be used to post from mastodon to lemmy communities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago Kinda. I think mastodon hashtags can be used to post from mastodon to lemmy communities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago Same here. I guess it's a confusing place to be, you feel like you're doing well meaning stuff but because you're ideologically brainwashed and prohibited from making logical dialectical conclusions nothing really makes sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sinister@hexbear.net [B] 11 points 2 years ago Most Trots are incredibly well-read and very eloquent, but their conclusions are like incredibly uh “stupid”. permalink fedilink source parent