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Lemmy users when I mention I pay for Youtube Premium (startrek.website)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/risa@startrek.website
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Somehow paying for Netflix is fine but god forbid I want to watch a 10 hour loop of the DS9 intro without ads.

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[–] 53 points 3 years ago* (29 children)

It includes youtube music. And creators you watch get more money than if you watched using the ad supported version.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago* (17 children)

    • You also get to play video with a screen off on mobile

    • You also get to download for offline viewing

    • You also support the creators of the videos, not just google.

    • AND FFS YOU DONT GET ADS.

    Using adblock isnt some innate human right. They are well within their rights to block adblock.

    You get almost the whole worlds information for free in video form. You can be entertained or use it as a teaching tool. It is the best place at this point for product demos and reviews. It is a crazy wealth of information and infrastructure that everyone takes advantage of and somehow just expect to be free. If Google cancells it because it is not profitable, i would bet the efficiency of the entire human race takes a significant nose dive. It also probably runs one of the highest sets of data storage and encoding on the planet.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Can do all of those things without premium if you have the right apps.

    But besides that, absolutely not. I remember when YouTube was free with no ads, I remember when the adverts first started appearing, and that's when it became obvious that they were trying to annoy you into a pay model. It took a little longer than expected, but sure enough, they ramped up the ads until "YOUTUBE PREMIUM! PAY FOR NO ADVERTS!"

    Fuck that, I had no adverts before and they took that away. But the worst part is that they harvest my private data and make money from me already. As far as I'm concerned, that's my subscription to their shit, in their perverse data selling.

    No fucking way I'm going to also pay them for the privilege to have my private data sold.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    You also get videos crammed full with sponsors. One might say that most videos on YouTube are ads themselves. YT Premium does not have Sponsorblock. Alphabet makes money by selling your data and they continue to do so when you pay them. I support a select few creators via Patreon. Fuck Alphabet, they're not getting a single cent from me.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh, ffs. You dont see that the reason you "need" sponsorblock is because we used adblock so much that the only way the creators could make a living was injecting their own adds into their own videos.

    The money youtube makes from selling your data does not cover the cost of running the business.

    What about all the creators of videos you watched that you dont support on patreon? They dont deserve anything for their work?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Ok a few points.

    1. Youtube is in their right to show ads and shove them in my face. They can also try to block my adblocker. Their platform their rules.

    2. Youtubers adding sponsors into their Video is because Youtube does not pay them for the ads that are shown, or at least not fairly. Also because people want to earn money with Youtube which is partially a problem in the first place.

    3. Yes youtube is expensive to run and they have been in the minus for years, but just as they make profit they go all the way and force you into Premium! They can try that but it's in my right to use the Service with adblock and sponsorblock until they go to a subscription only Service.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    So, some basic features that you can/used to get by just using a web browser, and soemthing that you can do directly via Patreon.

    Definitely value for money.

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  • [+] -16 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    You're arguing with one of three things.

    A employee of Google, a troll, or a child.

    Mostly I just want to believe that, because I want to believe there aren't people who blindly shill for a company that neither knows nor cares they exist.

    Wow look at all the blind shills.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Im neither. Im a software developer for a small tech company.

    My reasoning is 100% selfish. I dont want the content creators that i watch to stop creating things i find incredibly valuable. And i dont want google to cancel a service that i find incredibly valuable.

    Dont think that they wont do it. It just has to become unprofitable.

    They have already killed 14 services this year alone. https://killedbygoogle.com/

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I kinda want Google to just cancel YouTube. Shit would be hilarious. Also sad and we would lose soooooo much information. But still I kinda just want to see what happens. What new players enter the game, will the monopoly be broken? Though I'm sure Microsoft, Amazon, and other big boys would roll their own versions of YouTube and effectively there would not be a difference, just a small amount of fragmentation.

    But still...

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    According to the Lemmy community the folks over at selfhosting will just spawn an international CDN on their raspberry pis and deliver my 5 hour, 400GiB Starfield all categories speedrun recording for free out of good will. Right?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (8 children)

    I thought YouTube music was a separate subscription?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (6 children)

    It is not, unless they perhaps have a YT Music-only subscription but I haven't seen such.

    Edit: It looks like there is a YT Music Only subscription available, for $3/mo cheaper. I'd still say if you use YouTube any more than just on one-off occasions, its still worth picking up regular YT Premium if you're grabbing the music one anyways, but at least the option is there.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    ... I don't know where I got this idea. And I just got another month of Spotify too. Isn't there an easy way to transfer your playlists over there?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    As far as I'm aware, none of the music services really have a direct transfer option available. You pretty much have to use a third party service to do so from what I found the last time I tried to do a major switch.

    Funnily enough, I feel like this is one of those things that are present day "AI" could probably help with, if it were integrated with these services. Realistically you'd just need something to do some OCR of images from your playlists, and match the results - I'm kind of surprised that's not something Spotify, Google, etc have done yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    There was a YouTube music only tier I was on when I moved from Google Play Music. Eventually I figured out about YouTube Premimum including the music so I changed to that

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