▲ 151 ▼ How young Argentines might put a far-right libertarian into power (www.vox.com) submitted 2 years ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 62 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 27 points 2 years ago (1 child) Libertarianism is a far right ideology permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chaogomu@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) It wasn't always. It was a left wing ideology until an American fascist co-opted the term for his own brand of rightwing nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JesterXIII@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (3 children) I can't really see Ayn Rand as anything other than far right, and that's about as OG libertarian as you get. Free market, unfettered capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago She's only OG if you disregard the fifty some odd years of the word libertarian referring to anarchists like Emma Goldman. Back before Murray Rothbard hijacked the term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago At this point I kind of agree that it's pointless to argue about it as the word's connotations have already changed. But again the Ayn Rand as a Libertarian is still viewing the word through the altered meaning that rose to prominence in the US. Previous to that change it indeed was a wing of anarchism, a left-wing ideology. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Not really. It's fairly libertarian for sure, but she was a war hawk and in favor of IP laws. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago The word libertarian was used to mean something more leftist before that term was claimed by the modern America right wing libertarian movement, but that movement was never anything but a catspaw for right wing oligarchs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pgp@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3194162-one-gratifying-aspect-of-our-rise-to-some-prominence-is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) It wasn't always. It was a left wing ideology until an American fascist co-opted the term for his own brand of rightwing nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JesterXIII@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (3 children) I can't really see Ayn Rand as anything other than far right, and that's about as OG libertarian as you get. Free market, unfettered capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago She's only OG if you disregard the fifty some odd years of the word libertarian referring to anarchists like Emma Goldman. Back before Murray Rothbard hijacked the term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago At this point I kind of agree that it's pointless to argue about it as the word's connotations have already changed. But again the Ayn Rand as a Libertarian is still viewing the word through the altered meaning that rose to prominence in the US. Previous to that change it indeed was a wing of anarchism, a left-wing ideology. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Not really. It's fairly libertarian for sure, but she was a war hawk and in favor of IP laws. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago The word libertarian was used to mean something more leftist before that term was claimed by the modern America right wing libertarian movement, but that movement was never anything but a catspaw for right wing oligarchs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pgp@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3194162-one-gratifying-aspect-of-our-rise-to-some-prominence-is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JesterXIII@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (3 children) I can't really see Ayn Rand as anything other than far right, and that's about as OG libertarian as you get. Free market, unfettered capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago She's only OG if you disregard the fifty some odd years of the word libertarian referring to anarchists like Emma Goldman. Back before Murray Rothbard hijacked the term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago At this point I kind of agree that it's pointless to argue about it as the word's connotations have already changed. But again the Ayn Rand as a Libertarian is still viewing the word through the altered meaning that rose to prominence in the US. Previous to that change it indeed was a wing of anarchism, a left-wing ideology. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Not really. It's fairly libertarian for sure, but she was a war hawk and in favor of IP laws. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago She's only OG if you disregard the fifty some odd years of the word libertarian referring to anarchists like Emma Goldman. Back before Murray Rothbard hijacked the term. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago At this point I kind of agree that it's pointless to argue about it as the word's connotations have already changed. But again the Ayn Rand as a Libertarian is still viewing the word through the altered meaning that rose to prominence in the US. Previous to that change it indeed was a wing of anarchism, a left-wing ideology. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago Not really. It's fairly libertarian for sure, but she was a war hawk and in favor of IP laws. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago The word libertarian was used to mean something more leftist before that term was claimed by the modern America right wing libertarian movement, but that movement was never anything but a catspaw for right wing oligarchs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pgp@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3194162-one-gratifying-aspect-of-our-rise-to-some-prominence-is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/3194162-one-gratifying-aspect-of-our-rise-to-some-prominence-is permalink fedilink source parent