▲ 421 ▼ ‘Reddit can survive without search’: company reportedly threatens to block Google (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by Satelllliiiiiiiteeee@kbin.social to c/reddit@lemmy.world 107 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 143 points 2 years ago (4 children) Both reddit and google will become useless if they do this. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] andyburke@kbin.social 96 points 2 years ago (2 children) sad and amazing how true this is. to find anything worthwhile in Google search you often needed to add site:reddit.com to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google well, glad I don't go to those websites anymore... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tigerhawkvok@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) People say this all the time, but I search prolifically and have literally never had to do this to get a relevant result top 4. What are you guys doing, using full sentences with puffery like you're talking to the Enterprise or something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Have you never searched for a problem where you wanted to hear actual people talk about the solution? If I don't suffix it with "Reddit" I just get SEO spam/AI generated articles which may or may not actually be useful. Usually I want to know what real people think about the issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 30021190@lemmy.cloud.aboutcher.co.uk 2 points 2 years ago Same... Although maybe I'm just searching niche problems. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frazw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 100% agree. While I think it might be easier to get to a relevant result more quickly in certain cases, I've never needed to suffix reddit to my searches to find what I need. Often reddit hits crop up but not because I looked for them specifically. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google Huh? I just used reddits own search bar. Worked just fine for me. Edit: Man some of you are bitter at the fact that not everyone had issues using Reddits own search. Lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) oh man this is hilarious. you're kidding right? did they fix it right before everyone left in disgust and no one even noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not kidding. Never had issues with it in the many years I used it. =) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago every single time I've tried reddit's search it delivered results that were somehow worse than not searching at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) You would be a shining needle in a field of hay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess. I had no idea so many people hated Reddits searchbar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you know a post exists, and you type its exact title into reddits search, and it gives you inrelated bullshit so you need to go to google who hand you the exact post you knew existed, it annoys you. When you do that every time you try reddits search function, you start to really hate it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Ah, sorry that was happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AtomicPurple@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've found that Reddit's search generally works when searching within a specific subreddit, but otherwise it's mostly useless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* But isn't that how most people use google to search Reddit anyways? They specify the sub in their searches. But anyways, I was always able to find what I was looking for even when doing a website-wide general search or when picking the sub. shrug permalink fedilink source parent [–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk I always found the result sorting to be, I mean, obscenely bad. I would find better more accurate results searching in Google "r/whateversub" followed by whatever it was I was trying to find. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You could pick what sub you wanted to find your info directly from Reddits own search bar as well though. Or choose to search the entire website. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago Reddit needs google a lot more than Google needs reddit permalink fedilink source parent [+] buzz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago Reddit's search was broken when I joined in 2009 and it never improved. The only thing that made Reddit searchable was Google. Reddit somehow missed that the value of the was in the comments, not the post. Post titles are easily searchable but searching the comments using Reddit's own search is still difficult. It mystifies me how badly the people running Reddit misunderstand the most basic things about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago I'm pretty sure reddit's search is basically fake, a stopgap "todo" placeholder that never got done. It always seemed like they wanted us to forget that Reddit is even supposed to be searchable, but now we know that search really is against their mission somehow. Even from the perspective of greed it never made sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -14 points 2 years ago Reddit search functionality is friggin useless. Wild, cause it's worked just fine for me for 10+ years. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rogue@feddit.uk -1 points 2 years ago I doubt reddit makes much revenue from traffic generated by search queries. I suspect People endlessly scrolling their feed are more likely to click ads permalink fedilink source parent
[–] andyburke@kbin.social 96 points 2 years ago (2 children) sad and amazing how true this is. to find anything worthwhile in Google search you often needed to add site:reddit.com to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google well, glad I don't go to those websites anymore... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tigerhawkvok@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) People say this all the time, but I search prolifically and have literally never had to do this to get a relevant result top 4. What are you guys doing, using full sentences with puffery like you're talking to the Enterprise or something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Have you never searched for a problem where you wanted to hear actual people talk about the solution? If I don't suffix it with "Reddit" I just get SEO spam/AI generated articles which may or may not actually be useful. Usually I want to know what real people think about the issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 30021190@lemmy.cloud.aboutcher.co.uk 2 points 2 years ago Same... Although maybe I'm just searching niche problems. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frazw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 100% agree. While I think it might be easier to get to a relevant result more quickly in certain cases, I've never needed to suffix reddit to my searches to find what I need. Often reddit hits crop up but not because I looked for them specifically. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google Huh? I just used reddits own search bar. Worked just fine for me. Edit: Man some of you are bitter at the fact that not everyone had issues using Reddits own search. Lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) oh man this is hilarious. you're kidding right? did they fix it right before everyone left in disgust and no one even noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not kidding. Never had issues with it in the many years I used it. =) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago every single time I've tried reddit's search it delivered results that were somehow worse than not searching at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) You would be a shining needle in a field of hay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess. I had no idea so many people hated Reddits searchbar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you know a post exists, and you type its exact title into reddits search, and it gives you inrelated bullshit so you need to go to google who hand you the exact post you knew existed, it annoys you. When you do that every time you try reddits search function, you start to really hate it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Ah, sorry that was happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AtomicPurple@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've found that Reddit's search generally works when searching within a specific subreddit, but otherwise it's mostly useless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* But isn't that how most people use google to search Reddit anyways? They specify the sub in their searches. But anyways, I was always able to find what I was looking for even when doing a website-wide general search or when picking the sub. shrug permalink fedilink source parent [–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk I always found the result sorting to be, I mean, obscenely bad. I would find better more accurate results searching in Google "r/whateversub" followed by whatever it was I was trying to find. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You could pick what sub you wanted to find your info directly from Reddits own search bar as well though. Or choose to search the entire website. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tigerhawkvok@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (3 children) People say this all the time, but I search prolifically and have literally never had to do this to get a relevant result top 4. What are you guys doing, using full sentences with puffery like you're talking to the Enterprise or something? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dingus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Have you never searched for a problem where you wanted to hear actual people talk about the solution? If I don't suffix it with "Reddit" I just get SEO spam/AI generated articles which may or may not actually be useful. Usually I want to know what real people think about the issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 30021190@lemmy.cloud.aboutcher.co.uk 2 points 2 years ago Same... Although maybe I'm just searching niche problems. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frazw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 100% agree. While I think it might be easier to get to a relevant result more quickly in certain cases, I've never needed to suffix reddit to my searches to find what I need. Often reddit hits crop up but not because I looked for them specifically. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dingus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago Have you never searched for a problem where you wanted to hear actual people talk about the solution? If I don't suffix it with "Reddit" I just get SEO spam/AI generated articles which may or may not actually be useful. Usually I want to know what real people think about the issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 30021190@lemmy.cloud.aboutcher.co.uk 2 points 2 years ago Same... Although maybe I'm just searching niche problems. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frazw@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 100% agree. While I think it might be easier to get to a relevant result more quickly in certain cases, I've never needed to suffix reddit to my searches to find what I need. Often reddit hits crop up but not because I looked for them specifically. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) to find anything at all on Reddit you needed Google Huh? I just used reddits own search bar. Worked just fine for me. Edit: Man some of you are bitter at the fact that not everyone had issues using Reddits own search. Lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) oh man this is hilarious. you're kidding right? did they fix it right before everyone left in disgust and no one even noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not kidding. Never had issues with it in the many years I used it. =) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago every single time I've tried reddit's search it delivered results that were somehow worse than not searching at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) You would be a shining needle in a field of hay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess. I had no idea so many people hated Reddits searchbar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you know a post exists, and you type its exact title into reddits search, and it gives you inrelated bullshit so you need to go to google who hand you the exact post you knew existed, it annoys you. When you do that every time you try reddits search function, you start to really hate it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Ah, sorry that was happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AtomicPurple@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've found that Reddit's search generally works when searching within a specific subreddit, but otherwise it's mostly useless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* But isn't that how most people use google to search Reddit anyways? They specify the sub in their searches. But anyways, I was always able to find what I was looking for even when doing a website-wide general search or when picking the sub. shrug permalink fedilink source parent [–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk I always found the result sorting to be, I mean, obscenely bad. I would find better more accurate results searching in Google "r/whateversub" followed by whatever it was I was trying to find. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You could pick what sub you wanted to find your info directly from Reddits own search bar as well though. Or choose to search the entire website. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) oh man this is hilarious. you're kidding right? did they fix it right before everyone left in disgust and no one even noticed? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not kidding. Never had issues with it in the many years I used it. =) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago every single time I've tried reddit's search it delivered results that were somehow worse than not searching at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Not kidding. Never had issues with it in the many years I used it. =) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago every single time I've tried reddit's search it delivered results that were somehow worse than not searching at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago every single time I've tried reddit's search it delivered results that were somehow worse than not searching at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) You would be a shining needle in a field of hay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess. I had no idea so many people hated Reddits searchbar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you know a post exists, and you type its exact title into reddits search, and it gives you inrelated bullshit so you need to go to google who hand you the exact post you knew existed, it annoys you. When you do that every time you try reddits search function, you start to really hate it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Ah, sorry that was happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I guess. I had no idea so many people hated Reddits searchbar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you know a post exists, and you type its exact title into reddits search, and it gives you inrelated bullshit so you need to go to google who hand you the exact post you knew existed, it annoys you. When you do that every time you try reddits search function, you start to really hate it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Ah, sorry that was happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) When you know a post exists, and you type its exact title into reddits search, and it gives you inrelated bullshit so you need to go to google who hand you the exact post you knew existed, it annoys you. When you do that every time you try reddits search function, you start to really hate it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Ah, sorry that was happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Ah, sorry that was happening to you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AtomicPurple@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I've found that Reddit's search generally works when searching within a specific subreddit, but otherwise it's mostly useless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* But isn't that how most people use google to search Reddit anyways? They specify the sub in their searches. But anyways, I was always able to find what I was looking for even when doing a website-wide general search or when picking the sub. shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* But isn't that how most people use google to search Reddit anyways? They specify the sub in their searches. But anyways, I was always able to find what I was looking for even when doing a website-wide general search or when picking the sub. shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Idk I always found the result sorting to be, I mean, obscenely bad. I would find better more accurate results searching in Google "r/whateversub" followed by whatever it was I was trying to find. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You could pick what sub you wanted to find your info directly from Reddits own search bar as well though. Or choose to search the entire website. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago You could pick what sub you wanted to find your info directly from Reddits own search bar as well though. Or choose to search the entire website. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago Reddit needs google a lot more than Google needs reddit permalink fedilink source parent
[+] buzz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago Reddit's search was broken when I joined in 2009 and it never improved. The only thing that made Reddit searchable was Google. Reddit somehow missed that the value of the was in the comments, not the post. Post titles are easily searchable but searching the comments using Reddit's own search is still difficult. It mystifies me how badly the people running Reddit misunderstand the most basic things about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago I'm pretty sure reddit's search is basically fake, a stopgap "todo" placeholder that never got done. It always seemed like they wanted us to forget that Reddit is even supposed to be searchable, but now we know that search really is against their mission somehow. Even from the perspective of greed it never made sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent [+] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -14 points 2 years ago Reddit search functionality is friggin useless. Wild, cause it's worked just fine for me for 10+ years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago Reddit's search was broken when I joined in 2009 and it never improved. The only thing that made Reddit searchable was Google. Reddit somehow missed that the value of the was in the comments, not the post. Post titles are easily searchable but searching the comments using Reddit's own search is still difficult. It mystifies me how badly the people running Reddit misunderstand the most basic things about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago I'm pretty sure reddit's search is basically fake, a stopgap "todo" placeholder that never got done. It always seemed like they wanted us to forget that Reddit is even supposed to be searchable, but now we know that search really is against their mission somehow. Even from the perspective of greed it never made sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -14 points 2 years ago Reddit search functionality is friggin useless. Wild, cause it's worked just fine for me for 10+ years. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rogue@feddit.uk -1 points 2 years ago I doubt reddit makes much revenue from traffic generated by search queries. I suspect People endlessly scrolling their feed are more likely to click ads permalink fedilink source parent