▲ 1069 ▼ Hey Google, go fuck yourself entirely (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 years ago by Sabre363@sh.itjust.works to c/crappydesign@sh.itjust.works 265 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago (6 children) I'm somewhat surprised it took so long after they took over YouTube. Might cause some surprising competition hopefully permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who is going to be competing for the eyeballs of people who militantly refuse to watch ads? I'd love to see YouTube have competition, but I don't think the demographic here is particularly valuable to anyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Same with lemmy. Who cares about us? Seems to be working somewhat tho. Issue with videohosting is filesizes, bandwiths, and the gigantic archive. That's why I said surprising competition: no, it wouldn't be from a big typical tech company. I think you're wrong on the value of the demographic: there are definitely ways, sectors etc where a small group of relatively tech savvy, ad-hating, very critical, neckbearded, moob carrying people is more valuable than a large mob of typical yay-saying consumers. I'ld even say it's the kind of niche demographic that made reddit big in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yeah, I feel like this is all very cyclical. The status quo is acceptable so people use it. It works well enough and it's practical enough that the majority of the user base sticks with a given standard, which creates momentum/inertia: the more accepted a given platform becomes the more content creators cater to it, which in turn draws and keeps more traffic. Owners of the platform see this and monetize. It's not bad at first but eventually greed gets the better of everyone, and they keep pushing and squeezing, usually both the base and the creators, for the privilege of playing in their playground, the defacto "place to be"... without consideration of the fact that their playground only holds that status because of the very people they're squeezing. Eventually they push it too far, and people start to jump ship as the enshittification finally tips their scales away from the status quo and makes finding an alternative the more attractive choice, even if it means giving up the positive aspects of the established platform. Sometimes it can take a while but eventually one or more new platforms emerge as the new "place to be" and the cycle begins again. Unfortunately, rather than learning from past mistakes and simply being less greedy and understanding that they need to find ways of generating profit that doesn't alienate their creators and viewers, instead the lesson learned seems to be 'try to find ways to trap users in your system so they can't leave'...which never is going to work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) The ol Trust Thermocline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klicnik@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That's a great read. Thanks for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Really wonder what game company he was consulting. My bet is on Pissazrd or EA permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who is going to be competing for the eyeballs of people who militantly refuse to watch ads? I'd love to see YouTube have competition, but I don't think the demographic here is particularly valuable to anyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Same with lemmy. Who cares about us? Seems to be working somewhat tho. Issue with videohosting is filesizes, bandwiths, and the gigantic archive. That's why I said surprising competition: no, it wouldn't be from a big typical tech company. I think you're wrong on the value of the demographic: there are definitely ways, sectors etc where a small group of relatively tech savvy, ad-hating, very critical, neckbearded, moob carrying people is more valuable than a large mob of typical yay-saying consumers. I'ld even say it's the kind of niche demographic that made reddit big in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago Same with lemmy. Who cares about us? Seems to be working somewhat tho. Issue with videohosting is filesizes, bandwiths, and the gigantic archive. That's why I said surprising competition: no, it wouldn't be from a big typical tech company. I think you're wrong on the value of the demographic: there are definitely ways, sectors etc where a small group of relatively tech savvy, ad-hating, very critical, neckbearded, moob carrying people is more valuable than a large mob of typical yay-saying consumers. I'ld even say it's the kind of niche demographic that made reddit big in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yeah, I feel like this is all very cyclical. The status quo is acceptable so people use it. It works well enough and it's practical enough that the majority of the user base sticks with a given standard, which creates momentum/inertia: the more accepted a given platform becomes the more content creators cater to it, which in turn draws and keeps more traffic. Owners of the platform see this and monetize. It's not bad at first but eventually greed gets the better of everyone, and they keep pushing and squeezing, usually both the base and the creators, for the privilege of playing in their playground, the defacto "place to be"... without consideration of the fact that their playground only holds that status because of the very people they're squeezing. Eventually they push it too far, and people start to jump ship as the enshittification finally tips their scales away from the status quo and makes finding an alternative the more attractive choice, even if it means giving up the positive aspects of the established platform. Sometimes it can take a while but eventually one or more new platforms emerge as the new "place to be" and the cycle begins again. Unfortunately, rather than learning from past mistakes and simply being less greedy and understanding that they need to find ways of generating profit that doesn't alienate their creators and viewers, instead the lesson learned seems to be 'try to find ways to trap users in your system so they can't leave'...which never is going to work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) The ol Trust Thermocline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klicnik@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That's a great read. Thanks for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Really wonder what game company he was consulting. My bet is on Pissazrd or EA permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) The ol Trust Thermocline. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Klicnik@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That's a great read. Thanks for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Really wonder what game company he was consulting. My bet is on Pissazrd or EA permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klicnik@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago That's a great read. Thanks for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Really wonder what game company he was consulting. My bet is on Pissazrd or EA permalink fedilink source parent