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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“People want to live where they know their neighbors don’t want to wipe them from the face of the earth. More at 11.”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Exemplified by the fact that we have started having free states again like during the civil war. The Maryland governor has been very clear and direct that the state of Maryland will take in political and social refugees from Florida and Texas. Where transpeople are being forced to die or pretend not to exist in Florida, Maryland is codifying their right to be and live as who they are.

You can't blame lefties and progressives for wanting to escape to freedom when their other option is death or hiding.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

There is a real threat of harm to various minority groups living in red states. Hell, there’s a real threat of harm to women who can fall pregnant living in red states. I’d certainly not want to live there if my accidentally falling pregnant (which would likely be ectopic in my case) would result in a very high chance of my death.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My generally open minded historically liberal friend called me the other day.

He moved to a very conservative area a few years ago, and the other night in a phone call he was saying "I'd feel far safer being a liberal at a Trump rally than wearing a Trump hat at a BLM antifa rally".

It is very much perceived on the right that the left is a violent mob waiting to burn down your neighborhood at the smallest slight. While the right is a bunch of friendly Sunday school help thy neighbor types.

I tend to lean towards this is all bot farm propaganda trolling, and that only a very small percentage of either side are actually bad people I would want to avoid.

The problem is, this is how people are getting their information now days, and the idea that "Oh that's just people on the internet" is no longer valid. Social media and algorithmic rage bait driven content are having a very real impact on the "real" world.

Since he is an old friend, I was able to get him to pause for a breath in this talking point fueled screed he was on, and point out "Dude, I just want the same simple things you do, abortion access, religion out of schools and politics, reasonable gun ownership, healthy air/food/water, a strong national defense, etc".

When one of the first arguments you bring up is the "violance" of drag people reading books to kids, well shit, I just don't think we're having the same conversation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

liberal at a Trump rally than wearing a Trump hat at a BLM antifa rally

So in the discussion of red states vs blue states, the 'both sides' examples are:

  • Trump, a member of the republican party (Red) who rose to presidency as the republican candidate, still has many followers and is part of the republican mainstream

  • BLM antifa, fringe movements which have no official part in the democratic party (Blue) and have never held any political power

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’m sure both sides are actually doing this. It’s just that only one side is actually being persecuted and forced to leave their homes.