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Israel's siege of Gaza is illegal, EU says (euobserver.com)
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[–] 82 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (33 children)

Israel's actions are a direct consequence of what Hamas did," Borrell's spokesman had said in Brussels earlier the same day.

Uhh, I think you meant to say "Hamas' actions are a direct consequence of what Israel has been doing to Gaza"

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  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    You really wouldn't gather this by looking at the media churn. It's pro Israel to with it's foot to the floor. If you dare voice distention, you are labeled to be an anti Semite. This successful tactic has been a go to for years. For Israel to know true peace, they need to dump its current leadership. I won't see this happen in my lifetime.

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  • [+] -12 points 3 years ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    I'm all for open discussions. But.... shouldn't one know the basic facts on a topic before seemingly expressing an opinion on the matter? You clearly need to take an unbiased look at the situation.

    You do not kill hundreds of innocent people and blame it on oppression.

    The oblivious irony of such a statement.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 years ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Why do you expect an argument? I'm pointing out what seems to me as a flaw in reasoning based on what seems to be a lack of understanding of the situation.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    That’s the thing Mann I don’t misunderstand the situation… You do. The atrocities that Hamas is responsible for is only punishable via death with war comes civilian casualties until we can figure out a way to only kill military personnel. This is literally collateral damage that is inevitable… Israel is doing the right thing Hamas is a terrorist organization Land is not owned by any society. It is owned by the power of the society at the time of its being I know you don’t understand what I’m saying and that’s OK let’s just agree to disagree.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I doubt I'm anything like you, and I also doubt I think like you. I've spent my life always critical of what I think, always allowing myself to be wrong. So I don't look at this situation with the gut feeling and emotion you seem to have. I look at humans, and human behavior. I'm skeptical of any news and media, especially if there is reason to suspect an agenda.

    This is literally collateral damage that is inevitable… Israel is doing the right thing Hamas is a terrorist organization Land is not owned by any society. It is owned by the power of the society at the time

    Each of those sentences combined, paints such a strong picture, that I'm surprised you cannot see it for what it is.

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  • [+] -20 points 3 years ago (16 children)

    You obviously dont know your history. This all started when Britain made shady deals with a bunch of countries during the first world war. And even before that Israel was on that land before there was ever a Palestine.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Palestinians have been living there for hundreds of years, it is their home. The Isreali settlers started showing up 70 years ago and forced the inhabitants out of their houses. Do you seriously think that Jewish people deserve that land because of the religion of its inhabitants in ancient roman times?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    You do know their were always arab jews in tbe region. Just saying from Morroco to Yemen but with Israel's creation, jews were expelled from every Arab nation. Only Iran let those who wanted to stay in an islamist country.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    When were Jews expelled for every Arab nation? I don't think that's true. Like you said "there were always Arab Jews in the region" but they were a minority. The modern Israeli citizens are mostly immigrants though.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    That surprises me. I thought sharia law demands that you let peaceful infidels stay as long as they don't practice their infidelity in public and pay the jizyah. I mean, it obviously sucks and is tailored in a manner that infidels are leaving, but there is no forced relocation as in zionism.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    If you go by the Quran Jews aren’t even called infidels. They are considered People of the Book. But you are thinking that Arabs follow the Quran devoutly. They cherry pick like all the conservative Christian’s in the west. It doesn’t matter which religion they have they will be hateful against “others” regardless.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I think he was referring to the IDFs penchant for shooting Palestinian kids in the back for funsies for the last few years.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Source for this claim?

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago

    https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/2022-becomes-deadliest-year-palestinian-children-west-bank-over-15-years

    Jason Lee, Country Director for Save the Children in the occupied Palestinian territory, said:

    “It is unacceptable that there is continued use of lethal force against children. So far, 34 Palestinian children in the West Bank have lost their lives in 2022, in what has become the deadliest year for children in more than 15 years. One Israeli child was reportedly also killed in an attack just this morning. Once again, children are paying the heaviest price for a conflict they have no control over."

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