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Do you trust Proton? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've been using Proton Mail and VPN for a while now, and I'm just wondering how everyone else feels about them. I have this kind of inherent alight distrust of them just because they seem like they offer a lot for free and kind of have a Big Tech vibe about them, but there's nothing for me to really substantiate that distrust with, its mostly just a feeling. That being said, I do use their services as mentioned and they work pretty well, even on the free teir. So aside from that one instance where they gave that guy's info to the feds, is there any reason not to trust them with my data?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah I think most people confuse privacy with criminal behaviour. Proton has your back when it comes to the former, but they aren’t there to enable you to pirate or cause trouble, hiding behind their service.

I don’t see how making sure criminals are brought to justice is the same as protecting your anonymity on the net.

And even if mandated under law, it’s not like they actually log your travels and are handing that to law enforcement. Whatever they hand over still falls under their services guidelines.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Criminals" such as climate activists?

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The service could not appeal because a Swiss law had actually been broken and because "legal tools for serious crimes" were used.

Yep under Swiss law he was a criminal, we may not agree with the law but unfortunately that's the case here

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Yes. It's not really Proton's fault, but definitely unattractive to a user/customer

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

That's the thing. Anonymity on the internet should enable people to protect themselves against unethical laws. Law is not correct, it's just law