▲ 306 ▼ Israel-Palestine escalation live: Strikes hit Gaza after Hamas offensive (www.aljazeera.com) submitted 2 years ago by zephyreks@lemmy.ml [M] to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 162 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Bassword@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (20 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] dsemy@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) The lack of serious responses shows how ignorant people here are to this issue (even though many speak about it confidently). The way I see it, Hamas is trying to elicit a disproportionate response from Israel in order to jeopardize recent normalization efforts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Bassword@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's like a prison riot. You have to fight back knowing that you will be crushed again, but if you don't Israel will just continue the slow slaughter of Palestinians. If you can try to get some breathing room and make it painful to the other side you can hope Israel will someday stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theKalash@feddit.ch 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Has there every been a prison that had to shut down and release all the prisoners due to continious riots? It just doesn't seem like a strategy that can actually work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago The difference is that the comparison shouldn't happen because Gaza is not actually a prison so the people in it aren't prisoners they are civilians with militants mixed in because there is no way out. If Israel didn't oppress and let the people live their lives, then perhaps they wouldn't lash out with these rocket attacks. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com -15 points 2 years ago (14 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (10 children) Nah, that's Israel, they're the apartheid state, remember? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago It's not a buzzword, it is apartheid. South Africans who have fought against apartheid and suffered under it agree, that Israel is an apartheid state. I know because I have I have talked to them. If you can't agree with that, there is no use having a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (6 children) Clearly you don't understand what the term "apartheid" means, nor why Israel has been called an "apartheid" state for decades. Also the irony of you telling two South Africans "that they have no clue what they're talking about". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago I'm no South African, but you're a useful idiot for the ruling class if you are so ready to dismiss the voices of minoritized groups, i.e. the ones who don't have the media reach to tell you what to think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Damn, can't believe we managed to get Terre'Blanche himself in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago no u permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Babs@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago drown in your own piss, fascist permalink fedilink source parent [–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago Least Fascist Zionist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago look out, here comes my piss jar from the 20th floor permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dsemy@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) The lack of serious responses shows how ignorant people here are to this issue (even though many speak about it confidently). The way I see it, Hamas is trying to elicit a disproportionate response from Israel in order to jeopardize recent normalization efforts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Bassword@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's like a prison riot. You have to fight back knowing that you will be crushed again, but if you don't Israel will just continue the slow slaughter of Palestinians. If you can try to get some breathing room and make it painful to the other side you can hope Israel will someday stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] theKalash@feddit.ch 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Has there every been a prison that had to shut down and release all the prisoners due to continious riots? It just doesn't seem like a strategy that can actually work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago The difference is that the comparison shouldn't happen because Gaza is not actually a prison so the people in it aren't prisoners they are civilians with militants mixed in because there is no way out. If Israel didn't oppress and let the people live their lives, then perhaps they wouldn't lash out with these rocket attacks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Has there every been a prison that had to shut down and release all the prisoners due to continious riots? It just doesn't seem like a strategy that can actually work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago The difference is that the comparison shouldn't happen because Gaza is not actually a prison so the people in it aren't prisoners they are civilians with militants mixed in because there is no way out. If Israel didn't oppress and let the people live their lives, then perhaps they wouldn't lash out with these rocket attacks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago The difference is that the comparison shouldn't happen because Gaza is not actually a prison so the people in it aren't prisoners they are civilians with militants mixed in because there is no way out. If Israel didn't oppress and let the people live their lives, then perhaps they wouldn't lash out with these rocket attacks. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com -15 points 2 years ago (14 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (10 children) Nah, that's Israel, they're the apartheid state, remember? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago It's not a buzzword, it is apartheid. South Africans who have fought against apartheid and suffered under it agree, that Israel is an apartheid state. I know because I have I have talked to them. If you can't agree with that, there is no use having a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (6 children) Clearly you don't understand what the term "apartheid" means, nor why Israel has been called an "apartheid" state for decades. Also the irony of you telling two South Africans "that they have no clue what they're talking about". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago I'm no South African, but you're a useful idiot for the ruling class if you are so ready to dismiss the voices of minoritized groups, i.e. the ones who don't have the media reach to tell you what to think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Damn, can't believe we managed to get Terre'Blanche himself in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago no u permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Babs@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kuori@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago drown in your own piss, fascist permalink fedilink source parent [–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago Least Fascist Zionist permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago look out, here comes my piss jar from the 20th floor permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (10 children) Nah, that's Israel, they're the apartheid state, remember? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago It's not a buzzword, it is apartheid. South Africans who have fought against apartheid and suffered under it agree, that Israel is an apartheid state. I know because I have I have talked to them. If you can't agree with that, there is no use having a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (6 children) Clearly you don't understand what the term "apartheid" means, nor why Israel has been called an "apartheid" state for decades. Also the irony of you telling two South Africans "that they have no clue what they're talking about". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago I'm no South African, but you're a useful idiot for the ruling class if you are so ready to dismiss the voices of minoritized groups, i.e. the ones who don't have the media reach to tell you what to think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Damn, can't believe we managed to get Terre'Blanche himself in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago no u permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Babs@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago It's not a buzzword, it is apartheid. South Africans who have fought against apartheid and suffered under it agree, that Israel is an apartheid state. I know because I have I have talked to them. If you can't agree with that, there is no use having a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (6 children) Clearly you don't understand what the term "apartheid" means, nor why Israel has been called an "apartheid" state for decades. Also the irony of you telling two South Africans "that they have no clue what they're talking about". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago I'm no South African, but you're a useful idiot for the ruling class if you are so ready to dismiss the voices of minoritized groups, i.e. the ones who don't have the media reach to tell you what to think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Damn, can't believe we managed to get Terre'Blanche himself in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago no u permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Babs@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago It's not a buzzword, it is apartheid. South Africans who have fought against apartheid and suffered under it agree, that Israel is an apartheid state. I know because I have I have talked to them. If you can't agree with that, there is no use having a conversation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (6 children) Clearly you don't understand what the term "apartheid" means, nor why Israel has been called an "apartheid" state for decades. Also the irony of you telling two South Africans "that they have no clue what they're talking about". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago I'm no South African, but you're a useful idiot for the ruling class if you are so ready to dismiss the voices of minoritized groups, i.e. the ones who don't have the media reach to tell you what to think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Damn, can't believe we managed to get Terre'Blanche himself in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago no u permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Babs@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago I'm no South African, but you're a useful idiot for the ruling class if you are so ready to dismiss the voices of minoritized groups, i.e. the ones who don't have the media reach to tell you what to think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Damn, can't believe we managed to get Terre'Blanche himself in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago no u permalink fedilink source parent [+] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Babs@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago I'm no South African, but you're a useful idiot for the ruling class if you are so ready to dismiss the voices of minoritized groups, i.e. the ones who don't have the media reach to tell you what to think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago Damn, can't believe we managed to get Terre'Blanche himself in this thread. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago drown in your own piss, fascist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Redbolshevik2@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago Least Fascist Zionist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago look out, here comes my piss jar from the 20th floor permalink fedilink source parent