▲ 676 ▼ Usually connect to Walmart's WiFi but they changed their policy I guess, won't be doing that now... (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 years ago by trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 224 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] neosheo@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why is the vpn necessary when you have https to the bank? Just to hide you're ip from the bank? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Public WiFi would make me skeptical when I always put in my passwords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well im just saying thats what https is for but there's nothing wrong with extra security permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So if https is all that's needed, why do VPNs recommend using them at public locations? Just false advertising? I click on my bank app and it always wants a password and I guess I don't know enough about network engineering. I'm interested in Android Development but don't know much about WiFi I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marketing mostly. The vpn makes an encrypted tunnel that you're traffic goes thru. If using https and vpn there are 2 layers of encryption. It's not false advertising bc an extra layer doesn't hurt. Now if your sending password over http it would help but you shouldnt be using a site that sends passwords over plaintext. I would say vpn is mostly to either hide your ip from websites or to hide internet activity from your isp permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So more for privacy than security, so it would make sense to use a VPN depending on your threat model I suppose, or how much you care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yeah it's more for privacy. Still you can just have it always on and it really wont cause many issues except for sites that block vpns. permalink fedilink source parent [–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I always wonder why those VPN absolutists aren't happy with your regular HTTPS. Sure, maybe HTTP is safer with the VPN, but it just hides your real IP from the target website. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) it also hides the websites you visit from your ISP, who often likes to profile you based on your browsing habits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It shifts from the isp to the VPN provider, who isn't doing that profiling yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but it's on a public wifi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* in that case, it hides the websites you visit from: the ISP providing the network, and the business who offers the public WiFi, both of them probably being very eager to profile your browsing habits (as seen on the image in the post). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Public WiFi would make me skeptical when I always put in my passwords. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well im just saying thats what https is for but there's nothing wrong with extra security permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So if https is all that's needed, why do VPNs recommend using them at public locations? Just false advertising? I click on my bank app and it always wants a password and I guess I don't know enough about network engineering. I'm interested in Android Development but don't know much about WiFi I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marketing mostly. The vpn makes an encrypted tunnel that you're traffic goes thru. If using https and vpn there are 2 layers of encryption. It's not false advertising bc an extra layer doesn't hurt. Now if your sending password over http it would help but you shouldnt be using a site that sends passwords over plaintext. I would say vpn is mostly to either hide your ip from websites or to hide internet activity from your isp permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So more for privacy than security, so it would make sense to use a VPN depending on your threat model I suppose, or how much you care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yeah it's more for privacy. Still you can just have it always on and it really wont cause many issues except for sites that block vpns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Well im just saying thats what https is for but there's nothing wrong with extra security permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So if https is all that's needed, why do VPNs recommend using them at public locations? Just false advertising? I click on my bank app and it always wants a password and I guess I don't know enough about network engineering. I'm interested in Android Development but don't know much about WiFi I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marketing mostly. The vpn makes an encrypted tunnel that you're traffic goes thru. If using https and vpn there are 2 layers of encryption. It's not false advertising bc an extra layer doesn't hurt. Now if your sending password over http it would help but you shouldnt be using a site that sends passwords over plaintext. I would say vpn is mostly to either hide your ip from websites or to hide internet activity from your isp permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So more for privacy than security, so it would make sense to use a VPN depending on your threat model I suppose, or how much you care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yeah it's more for privacy. Still you can just have it always on and it really wont cause many issues except for sites that block vpns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So if https is all that's needed, why do VPNs recommend using them at public locations? Just false advertising? I click on my bank app and it always wants a password and I guess I don't know enough about network engineering. I'm interested in Android Development but don't know much about WiFi I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marketing mostly. The vpn makes an encrypted tunnel that you're traffic goes thru. If using https and vpn there are 2 layers of encryption. It's not false advertising bc an extra layer doesn't hurt. Now if your sending password over http it would help but you shouldnt be using a site that sends passwords over plaintext. I would say vpn is mostly to either hide your ip from websites or to hide internet activity from your isp permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So more for privacy than security, so it would make sense to use a VPN depending on your threat model I suppose, or how much you care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yeah it's more for privacy. Still you can just have it always on and it really wont cause many issues except for sites that block vpns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Marketing mostly. The vpn makes an encrypted tunnel that you're traffic goes thru. If using https and vpn there are 2 layers of encryption. It's not false advertising bc an extra layer doesn't hurt. Now if your sending password over http it would help but you shouldnt be using a site that sends passwords over plaintext. I would say vpn is mostly to either hide your ip from websites or to hide internet activity from your isp permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So more for privacy than security, so it would make sense to use a VPN depending on your threat model I suppose, or how much you care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yeah it's more for privacy. Still you can just have it always on and it really wont cause many issues except for sites that block vpns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml [S] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So more for privacy than security, so it would make sense to use a VPN depending on your threat model I suppose, or how much you care. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yeah it's more for privacy. Still you can just have it always on and it really wont cause many issues except for sites that block vpns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago Yeah it's more for privacy. Still you can just have it always on and it really wont cause many issues except for sites that block vpns. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I always wonder why those VPN absolutists aren't happy with your regular HTTPS. Sure, maybe HTTP is safer with the VPN, but it just hides your real IP from the target website. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) it also hides the websites you visit from your ISP, who often likes to profile you based on your browsing habits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It shifts from the isp to the VPN provider, who isn't doing that profiling yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but it's on a public wifi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* in that case, it hides the websites you visit from: the ISP providing the network, and the business who offers the public WiFi, both of them probably being very eager to profile your browsing habits (as seen on the image in the post). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) it also hides the websites you visit from your ISP, who often likes to profile you based on your browsing habits. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It shifts from the isp to the VPN provider, who isn't doing that profiling yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but it's on a public wifi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* in that case, it hides the websites you visit from: the ISP providing the network, and the business who offers the public WiFi, both of them probably being very eager to profile your browsing habits (as seen on the image in the post). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) It shifts from the isp to the VPN provider, who isn't doing that profiling yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neosheo@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but it's on a public wifi permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* in that case, it hides the websites you visit from: the ISP providing the network, and the business who offers the public WiFi, both of them probably being very eager to profile your browsing habits (as seen on the image in the post). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* in that case, it hides the websites you visit from: the ISP providing the network, and the business who offers the public WiFi, both of them probably being very eager to profile your browsing habits (as seen on the image in the post). permalink fedilink source parent
