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Authors Are Furious After Finding Their Works on List of Books Used To Train AI (www.themarysue.com)
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Authors using a new tool to search a list of 183,000 books used to train AI are furious to find their works on the list.

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[–] 10 points 3 years ago (11 children)

Tell you what, you get a landmark legal decision classifying LLM as people and then we'll talk.

Until then it's software being fed content in a way not permitted by its license i.e. the makers of that software committing copyright infringement.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (10 children)

    What exactly was not permitted by the license? Reading?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Using it to (create a tool to) create derivatives of the work on a massive scale.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Wikipedia: In copyright law, a derivative work is an expressive creation that includes major copyrightable elements of a first, previously created original work.

    I think you may be off a bit on what a derivative work is. I don't see LLMs spouting out major copyrightable elements of books. They can give a summary sure, but Cliff Notes would like to have a word if you think that's copyright infringement.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Well when that happens we have laws. So no problems

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Would you be okay with applying that argument for any crime?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Ever heard of the early 21st century classic Minority Report

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    You're missing the point. I'll make your example more specific.

    Well when fraud/rape/murder happens we have laws. So no problems.

    Those things happen. Creating a LLM based on copyrighted material without permission happens - it's not a hypothetical. But even then, giving a punishment after the fact does not make the initial crime "no problem", as you put it.

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