Indian foreign ministry claims ‘security threats’ after Trudeau’s explosive allegation of state-sponsored killing mean it cannot provide visa services safely

India says it is indefinitely suspending visa services in all categories for all Canadian nationals due to “security threats” to its consulates, amid a furious diplomatic row between the two countries.

Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Arindam Bagchi said they have suspended “all categories” of visas, including e-visas and for Canadian citizens applying from third countries.

And India has also moved to downsize the Canadian diplomatic presence in New Delhi, saying that Canada has more embassy workers in its capital than visa versa and that it wants to restore “parity”.

It comes after Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said there were “credible allegations” of the Indian state’s involvement in the murder of Sikh separatist leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar in Canada, triggering a furious tit-for-tat row.

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[–] 48 points 3 years ago (34 children)

Its funny coz I think Modi thinks people are dying to visit India.🤣🤣 its like Taliban thinking Afghanistan is the most developed country in the world.🤣🤣🤣

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    India is that one country I can't imagine visiting as a tourist. I know there's plenty of beauty in the country and people, but I couldn't imagine enjoying myself as I step over human beings and try to ignore all the crippling poverty and social inequality.

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  • [–] [B] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Indian here. You should know the holiness of a place here is proportional to the amounth of filth around it /s. And dont visit Ganges plains. South is fine and so is Himalaya and north east. Avoid the cow belt.

    Modi likes to pose macho especially when his followers like it. A bit of like Elon Musk if you ask me. He never said a thing about Chinese trangession in North East where we lost land. But he found soft targets in Canadians.

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  • [+] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago*

    The gentrification tried to push them into a corner, but the same people gentrifying them out, also want them left alone, so now we're turning into Vancouver, where you walk through a wealthy neighborhood and rich down towners are just stepping over homeless people on the way to their micro breweries, while patting themselves on the back for their progressiveness

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    Don't know if you have ever visited the US, but I was not expecting what we found. Worst was the constant begging. People tapping on the windows of the car when we stopped at intersections, chasing us around shopping centres and along streets, and begging on train stations, expecting "tips" for returning a bag they had stolen out of my hand (sometimes, jetlag didn't help me be fast enough) or "tips" for giving directions I didn't want, need, or ask for. They constantly expected money to be handed to them.

    It was shocking how the roads were broken, the shops had no electronic payment, the coins were worth practically nothing, the paper money was literally paper scrip and not holographic or durable, and the buildings were rotting apart. People were dying on the footpaths. Crowds of dirty people. Rubbish everywhere. But worst was the begging.

    Oddly, Canada isn't like that. If you ever visited the US, India is similar, but not unexpected the way the US is.

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  • [+] -20 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (13 children)

    As they should, India is an amazing and very unique country

    Why on Earth am I being downvoted. You guys need to leave your basement once in a while

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Most westerners would not be able to handle India. While yes its full of rich history and culture, the state of cities would be too much for most first worlders to handle.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Also, I'm definitely spending money and my PTO for what's going to be quite an unpleasant experience. There are many places that are beautiful and culture rich as well without as much unpleasantness.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago*

    I don't know what PTO is but you can spend it on what you want. I'm not sure what unpleasantness you mean. There's poverty for sure, especially in big cities. What didn't you like in India ? if you don't mind sharing your experience

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    I went to Goa and Mumbai. So maybe not the densest populated places but still. I'm from Sweden. Sure the population density takes some getting used to but if you allow yourself to do that it's not like it's an alien place. Great food.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago*

    Yea, you need some time to adjust,... it's obligatory. But I think roaming the cities is amazing (from the perspective of a european). One just has to agree on dropping some habits and learning new ones. Travelling, basically

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I didn't downvote, but nothing is "very unique" for the same reason that nobody is "very pregnant".

    Either it is unique or it is not.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I disagree.

    "Very" unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.

    Similarly, being "very pregnant" would be at about eight months or perhaps carrying more than one child. In the present of someone that is a month pregnant, it may hardly impact their day to day living, and you can't tell.

    Yes, technically the words are Boolean, but the reality makes sense.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

    "Very" unique indicates being unique in more ways and/or in more severe ways.

    The term you're looking for is "very unusual".

    Similarly, being "very pregnant"

    LOL, ok now say to a pregnant woman, "I don't think you're very pregnant". Please report back to us with her response.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Perhaps you haven't heard or read those before, but they're very much valid (😉). The downvotes are overwhelming and can't possibly -imho- reflect disagreement over my wording. I'm pretty sure it has to do with India, but I don't know why. Is there a particular anti-India sentiment I didn't know about ?

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  • [+] -47 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    India is fuckin incredible, what makes you think anyone is lining up to visit Canada?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Students. Higher education in India is incredibly bad. Thousands of Indians pay huge sums to get into Canadian unis.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago

    Higher education in India is incredibly bad.

    Imma be level with you homie, the only Indians who leave to Canada for higher education are the ones who did not make it into the top universities in India.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    India has some of the highest ranked universities in the world. It's a country famous for putting out doctors. Yes, there are issues with higher ed, but it's not as simple as "incredibly bad". And don't forget that a large number of foreign students is also a product of just having a large population.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    India has some of the highest ranked universities in the world.

    Whose capacity is close to nothing for the population. Indian universities fall in two categories: really good ones or absolute shit ones (source: I'm an Indian). There is no middle category. To get into the really good ones, you have to either have an exceptionally good academic performance or have to be extremely rich. Universities outside India fill in the demand of this middle category. Sprinkle in some permanent emigration aspirations and you get a country with a large emigrating student population.

    It’s a country famous for putting out doctors.

    While it is true that this is the perception of India especially in the west, it is categorically untrue. According to the World Health Organization (2023), India ranks very low in the amount of doctors per 10,000 people relative to developed countries (by more than 300%). If you counter this by saying "this is because all Indian doctors emigrate to the said developed countries", then that would be incorrect again, as around 10% of Indian physicians emigrate and practice in the west.

    And don’t forget that a large number of foreign students is also a product of just having a large population.

    I believe you are pinning "a large population" as the causal factor behind a high student emigrant population. Had this really been a causal factor, then we would've seen European and American students in Indian Universities proportional to their population (which when combined, makes up around half of India's population). The fact that we do not observe this phenomenon is evidence enough that "a large population" is not the causal factor behind this. Rather, it is the access to good education which plays a much much larger role.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    There are enough incredible countries where you don’t have to worry about perverts and being raped as a woman.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Come to Singapore, we have the Indian culture (among others), and we're the diametric opposite of India where it comes to safety in all aspects. 😉

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