▲ 643 ▼ Philips Hue will force users to upload their data to Hue cloud (www.home-assistant.io) submitted 2 years ago by nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de to c/technology@lemmy.world 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social -5 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LrdThndr@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unfortunately, no. Ultimately it’s a tiny computer that happens to produce light when a certain gpio pin is enabled. The light bulb is the portion you see, but inside, it’s an internet-connected microcontroller. I’ve even seen smart devices that internally run a full Linux distro complete with a shell session you can access if you know what you’re doing. The problem is that some of these firmwares and/or exploits for these firmwares actively scan your local network and report things. Further, they can be used as a jumping off point for attacks deeper in your network. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LrdThndr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And what about the zigbee hub, assuming you didn’t know enough to use homeassistant or some such? Or a wifi bulb? Point is, consumer smart electronics don’t have the same attention to security paid to them. Fwiw, I’m not anti-smart device. I run HA and have all kinds of smart crap, so clearly I accept at least part of the risk. But saying “it’s just a light bulb” is disingenuous as best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] anlumo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The LIFX bulbs announced your WiFi password to anyone who asked. This is not a breach of the bulb itself, it’s a gateway to your LAN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I don't want to be annoyed It opens up another vector for attacking other sensitive devices on my network. I haven't segregated my network so I don't feel safe doing this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LrdThndr@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unfortunately, no. Ultimately it’s a tiny computer that happens to produce light when a certain gpio pin is enabled. The light bulb is the portion you see, but inside, it’s an internet-connected microcontroller. I’ve even seen smart devices that internally run a full Linux distro complete with a shell session you can access if you know what you’re doing. The problem is that some of these firmwares and/or exploits for these firmwares actively scan your local network and report things. Further, they can be used as a jumping off point for attacks deeper in your network. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LrdThndr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And what about the zigbee hub, assuming you didn’t know enough to use homeassistant or some such? Or a wifi bulb? Point is, consumer smart electronics don’t have the same attention to security paid to them. Fwiw, I’m not anti-smart device. I run HA and have all kinds of smart crap, so clearly I accept at least part of the risk. But saying “it’s just a light bulb” is disingenuous as best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LrdThndr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And what about the zigbee hub, assuming you didn’t know enough to use homeassistant or some such? Or a wifi bulb? Point is, consumer smart electronics don’t have the same attention to security paid to them. Fwiw, I’m not anti-smart device. I run HA and have all kinds of smart crap, so clearly I accept at least part of the risk. But saying “it’s just a light bulb” is disingenuous as best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LrdThndr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) And what about the zigbee hub, assuming you didn’t know enough to use homeassistant or some such? Or a wifi bulb? Point is, consumer smart electronics don’t have the same attention to security paid to them. Fwiw, I’m not anti-smart device. I run HA and have all kinds of smart crap, so clearly I accept at least part of the risk. But saying “it’s just a light bulb” is disingenuous as best. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) The LIFX bulbs announced your WiFi password to anyone who asked. This is not a breach of the bulb itself, it’s a gateway to your LAN. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago I don't want to be annoyed It opens up another vector for attacking other sensitive devices on my network. I haven't segregated my network so I don't feel safe doing this. permalink fedilink source parent