▲ 643 ▼ Philips Hue will force users to upload their data to Hue cloud (www.home-assistant.io) submitted 2 years ago by nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de to c/technology@lemmy.world 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) How permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) Put home assistant on a raspberry pi, plug a Zigbee dongle to it, and start connecting smart gadgets to it. Or better yet buy a home assistant Green. You can check the home assistant docs to see if a smart device requires cloud connectivity to work — in general if it connects through Zigbee (or ZWave or Matter) then you’re good, but if it connects through WiFi then it probably is cloud based. https://www.home-assistant.io/ https://www.seeedstudio.com/Home-Assistant-Green-p-5792.html https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can confirm. I run Home Assistant and Rhasspy with Sengled bulbs and none of transmits info. The devices themselves aren't generally the issue, it's the hub that operates them that would be collecting and sending the info. Remove that, and you don't have to worry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) wow so Rhasspy is local voice assistant! do you have microphones places throughout your pad or do you go to a website first to speak or what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* You can use microphones wherever with HA and Rhasspy. Rhasspy is just the local voice and intent recognition portion, and HA executes the commands. This means you can have one Rpi in your place managing devices, and then have many different microphone-attached Rpi all over your house forwarding voice recognition intents to do whatever you want it to do. Whatever the mic is attached to will send to the HA instance and tell it what to do. No cloud. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Why do I need a RaspberryPi? I can't use my regular Linux PC? What is a Zigbee dongle and why is it mandatory? What do I do if he device is cloud based? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* You can use your regular PC if you want, but having an always-on server (the pi) makes it more convenient to use from, say, your phone. Zigbee is a popular wireless communication protocol used by iot devices. Without the dongle you won't have any way to talk to them. If it's cloud based, buy something else that isn't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anlumo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Your Zigbee light switches won’t do anything unless the machine running Home Assistant is on. Being able to control your lights while the computer isn’t running is really convenient. permalink fedilink source parent [–] b3an@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (5 children) Perfectly valid to ask how to protect your data using the tools the other user mentioned. Not sure why you were downvoted for asking simply how. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) @tjhart85 care to explain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tjhart85@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Sure! Click the link at the very top of the page! You know, what this entire conversation is theoretically talking about? It takes you to a Home Assistant page and even has some details on their philosophy and links to even more details about their privacy focused philosophy! I thought saying essentially "read the fucking article" would be pretty asshole-ish and wouldn't contribute anything to the conversation, but I also thought that your question contributed nothing, so I downvoted. Did that answer your question sufficiently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* Yikes... I read the fucking article, and it explained nothing. I read your comment and understand why you down voted. There you go, @b3an it seems that @tjhart85 simply has a stick up their ass permalink fedilink source parent [+] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago (2 children) Put home assistant on a raspberry pi, plug a Zigbee dongle to it, and start connecting smart gadgets to it. Or better yet buy a home assistant Green. You can check the home assistant docs to see if a smart device requires cloud connectivity to work — in general if it connects through Zigbee (or ZWave or Matter) then you’re good, but if it connects through WiFi then it probably is cloud based. https://www.home-assistant.io/ https://www.seeedstudio.com/Home-Assistant-Green-p-5792.html https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can confirm. I run Home Assistant and Rhasspy with Sengled bulbs and none of transmits info. The devices themselves aren't generally the issue, it's the hub that operates them that would be collecting and sending the info. Remove that, and you don't have to worry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) wow so Rhasspy is local voice assistant! do you have microphones places throughout your pad or do you go to a website first to speak or what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* You can use microphones wherever with HA and Rhasspy. Rhasspy is just the local voice and intent recognition portion, and HA executes the commands. This means you can have one Rpi in your place managing devices, and then have many different microphone-attached Rpi all over your house forwarding voice recognition intents to do whatever you want it to do. Whatever the mic is attached to will send to the HA instance and tell it what to do. No cloud. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Why do I need a RaspberryPi? I can't use my regular Linux PC? What is a Zigbee dongle and why is it mandatory? What do I do if he device is cloud based? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* You can use your regular PC if you want, but having an always-on server (the pi) makes it more convenient to use from, say, your phone. Zigbee is a popular wireless communication protocol used by iot devices. Without the dongle you won't have any way to talk to them. If it's cloud based, buy something else that isn't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anlumo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Your Zigbee light switches won’t do anything unless the machine running Home Assistant is on. Being able to control your lights while the computer isn’t running is really convenient. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can confirm. I run Home Assistant and Rhasspy with Sengled bulbs and none of transmits info. The devices themselves aren't generally the issue, it's the hub that operates them that would be collecting and sending the info. Remove that, and you don't have to worry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) wow so Rhasspy is local voice assistant! do you have microphones places throughout your pad or do you go to a website first to speak or what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* You can use microphones wherever with HA and Rhasspy. Rhasspy is just the local voice and intent recognition portion, and HA executes the commands. This means you can have one Rpi in your place managing devices, and then have many different microphone-attached Rpi all over your house forwarding voice recognition intents to do whatever you want it to do. Whatever the mic is attached to will send to the HA instance and tell it what to do. No cloud. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) wow so Rhasspy is local voice assistant! do you have microphones places throughout your pad or do you go to a website first to speak or what? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* You can use microphones wherever with HA and Rhasspy. Rhasspy is just the local voice and intent recognition portion, and HA executes the commands. This means you can have one Rpi in your place managing devices, and then have many different microphone-attached Rpi all over your house forwarding voice recognition intents to do whatever you want it to do. Whatever the mic is attached to will send to the HA instance and tell it what to do. No cloud. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* You can use microphones wherever with HA and Rhasspy. Rhasspy is just the local voice and intent recognition portion, and HA executes the commands. This means you can have one Rpi in your place managing devices, and then have many different microphone-attached Rpi all over your house forwarding voice recognition intents to do whatever you want it to do. Whatever the mic is attached to will send to the HA instance and tell it what to do. No cloud. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Why do I need a RaspberryPi? I can't use my regular Linux PC? What is a Zigbee dongle and why is it mandatory? What do I do if he device is cloud based? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* You can use your regular PC if you want, but having an always-on server (the pi) makes it more convenient to use from, say, your phone. Zigbee is a popular wireless communication protocol used by iot devices. Without the dongle you won't have any way to talk to them. If it's cloud based, buy something else that isn't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anlumo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Your Zigbee light switches won’t do anything unless the machine running Home Assistant is on. Being able to control your lights while the computer isn’t running is really convenient. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* You can use your regular PC if you want, but having an always-on server (the pi) makes it more convenient to use from, say, your phone. Zigbee is a popular wireless communication protocol used by iot devices. Without the dongle you won't have any way to talk to them. If it's cloud based, buy something else that isn't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Your Zigbee light switches won’t do anything unless the machine running Home Assistant is on. Being able to control your lights while the computer isn’t running is really convenient. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] b3an@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (5 children) Perfectly valid to ask how to protect your data using the tools the other user mentioned. Not sure why you were downvoted for asking simply how. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) @tjhart85 care to explain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tjhart85@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Sure! Click the link at the very top of the page! You know, what this entire conversation is theoretically talking about? It takes you to a Home Assistant page and even has some details on their philosophy and links to even more details about their privacy focused philosophy! I thought saying essentially "read the fucking article" would be pretty asshole-ish and wouldn't contribute anything to the conversation, but I also thought that your question contributed nothing, so I downvoted. Did that answer your question sufficiently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* Yikes... I read the fucking article, and it explained nothing. I read your comment and understand why you down voted. There you go, @b3an it seems that @tjhart85 simply has a stick up their ass permalink fedilink source parent [+] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) @tjhart85 care to explain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tjhart85@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Sure! Click the link at the very top of the page! You know, what this entire conversation is theoretically talking about? It takes you to a Home Assistant page and even has some details on their philosophy and links to even more details about their privacy focused philosophy! I thought saying essentially "read the fucking article" would be pretty asshole-ish and wouldn't contribute anything to the conversation, but I also thought that your question contributed nothing, so I downvoted. Did that answer your question sufficiently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* Yikes... I read the fucking article, and it explained nothing. I read your comment and understand why you down voted. There you go, @b3an it seems that @tjhart85 simply has a stick up their ass permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Sure! Click the link at the very top of the page! You know, what this entire conversation is theoretically talking about? It takes you to a Home Assistant page and even has some details on their philosophy and links to even more details about their privacy focused philosophy! I thought saying essentially "read the fucking article" would be pretty asshole-ish and wouldn't contribute anything to the conversation, but I also thought that your question contributed nothing, so I downvoted. Did that answer your question sufficiently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* Yikes... I read the fucking article, and it explained nothing. I read your comment and understand why you down voted. There you go, @b3an it seems that @tjhart85 simply has a stick up their ass permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* Yikes... I read the fucking article, and it explained nothing. I read your comment and understand why you down voted. There you go, @b3an it seems that @tjhart85 simply has a stick up their ass permalink fedilink source parent