▲ 37 ▼ Did the USA cause the Venezuelan humanitarian crisis? (lemmygrad.ml) submitted 3 years ago* by Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml 17 comments fedilink hide all child comments Is it the fault of the USA that Venezuela’s currency is so devalued that a great part of the population has to emigrate outside the country?
[+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -29 points 3 years ago* (13 children) .... no. Venezuela should has diversified its economy permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] FlightSimEnjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 3 years ago* (5 children) isn't this literally victim-blaming? what if Venezuela didn't want to diversify its economy? should it be punished by illegal sanctions for that? where is the free market that neolibs talk so much about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] jlyws123@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago Not wanting to diversify your economy is tantamount to giving your life to others. The reality is that there is no so-called free market at all. It is necessary to maintain the ability to resist risks. permalink fedilink source parent [+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -26 points 3 years ago (3 children) That isn't what happened. The sanctions where because the president didn't have legitimate elections... and killed political opposition. I don't agree with the sanctions as political punishment. But the emergence of Russia played a larger role than sanctions. Russia makes cheaper oil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 years ago you got any sources to back up your claims big boy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago The only reason the elections were declared illegitimate was because Maduro rightfully won. And the opposition wasn't killed, they were imprisoned for being traitors. They should be greatful most of them were allowed to live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago There are more productive things that starting an argument on the internet. I wish my husband wouldn't waste his time this way. Find people who agree with you and talk about that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 years ago (5 children) It costs money for an entire country to even attempt to diversify its economy, and a shitload of time and natural resources. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -20 points 3 years ago (4 children) They had a national welfare system that to my understanding was very extensive, but just handed out money. What if that money was instead moved to the creation of other sectors and welfare was done through that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 years ago* First of all, your sentence is a contradiction on its own. A national welfare system that just handed money? Lula's policies are more akin to that. Second, Veneuzela did move its resources to other sectors of its economy (i.e housing) https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/12946/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago It was. Not much you can do when you are psychologically abused and sabotaged by a larger next door neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you think the welfare money goes huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -13 points 3 years ago In Venezuela? It went directly to unemployment permalink fedilink source parent [+] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlightSimEnjoyer@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 3 years ago* (5 children) isn't this literally victim-blaming? what if Venezuela didn't want to diversify its economy? should it be punished by illegal sanctions for that? where is the free market that neolibs talk so much about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] jlyws123@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago Not wanting to diversify your economy is tantamount to giving your life to others. The reality is that there is no so-called free market at all. It is necessary to maintain the ability to resist risks. permalink fedilink source parent [+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -26 points 3 years ago (3 children) That isn't what happened. The sanctions where because the president didn't have legitimate elections... and killed political opposition. I don't agree with the sanctions as political punishment. But the emergence of Russia played a larger role than sanctions. Russia makes cheaper oil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 years ago you got any sources to back up your claims big boy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago The only reason the elections were declared illegitimate was because Maduro rightfully won. And the opposition wasn't killed, they were imprisoned for being traitors. They should be greatful most of them were allowed to live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago There are more productive things that starting an argument on the internet. I wish my husband wouldn't waste his time this way. Find people who agree with you and talk about that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jlyws123@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago Not wanting to diversify your economy is tantamount to giving your life to others. The reality is that there is no so-called free market at all. It is necessary to maintain the ability to resist risks. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -26 points 3 years ago (3 children) That isn't what happened. The sanctions where because the president didn't have legitimate elections... and killed political opposition. I don't agree with the sanctions as political punishment. But the emergence of Russia played a larger role than sanctions. Russia makes cheaper oil permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 years ago you got any sources to back up your claims big boy? permalink fedilink source parent [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago The only reason the elections were declared illegitimate was because Maduro rightfully won. And the opposition wasn't killed, they were imprisoned for being traitors. They should be greatful most of them were allowed to live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago There are more productive things that starting an argument on the internet. I wish my husband wouldn't waste his time this way. Find people who agree with you and talk about that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 years ago you got any sources to back up your claims big boy? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago The only reason the elections were declared illegitimate was because Maduro rightfully won. And the opposition wasn't killed, they were imprisoned for being traitors. They should be greatful most of them were allowed to live. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 years ago There are more productive things that starting an argument on the internet. I wish my husband wouldn't waste his time this way. Find people who agree with you and talk about that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 years ago (5 children) It costs money for an entire country to even attempt to diversify its economy, and a shitload of time and natural resources. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -20 points 3 years ago (4 children) They had a national welfare system that to my understanding was very extensive, but just handed out money. What if that money was instead moved to the creation of other sectors and welfare was done through that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 years ago* First of all, your sentence is a contradiction on its own. A national welfare system that just handed money? Lula's policies are more akin to that. Second, Veneuzela did move its resources to other sectors of its economy (i.e housing) https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/12946/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago It was. Not much you can do when you are psychologically abused and sabotaged by a larger next door neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you think the welfare money goes huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -13 points 3 years ago In Venezuela? It went directly to unemployment permalink fedilink source parent
[+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -20 points 3 years ago (4 children) They had a national welfare system that to my understanding was very extensive, but just handed out money. What if that money was instead moved to the creation of other sectors and welfare was done through that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 years ago* First of all, your sentence is a contradiction on its own. A national welfare system that just handed money? Lula's policies are more akin to that. Second, Veneuzela did move its resources to other sectors of its economy (i.e housing) https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/12946/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago It was. Not much you can do when you are psychologically abused and sabotaged by a larger next door neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you think the welfare money goes huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -13 points 3 years ago In Venezuela? It went directly to unemployment permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 years ago* First of all, your sentence is a contradiction on its own. A national welfare system that just handed money? Lula's policies are more akin to that. Second, Veneuzela did move its resources to other sectors of its economy (i.e housing) https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/12946/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago It was. Not much you can do when you are psychologically abused and sabotaged by a larger next door neighbor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where do you think the welfare money goes huh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -13 points 3 years ago In Venezuela? It went directly to unemployment permalink fedilink source parent
[+] zepheriths@lemmy.world -13 points 3 years ago In Venezuela? It went directly to unemployment permalink fedilink source parent