RaivoKulli comments on Family sues Google after Maps allegedly directed father off collapsed bridge

Family sues Google after Maps allegedly directed father off collapsed bridge (www.theguardian.com)

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Tech company faces negligence lawsuit after Philip Paxson died from driving off a North Carolina bridge destroyed years ago

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -5 points 3 years ago (15 children)

Bizarre thinking. Some rest stop owner puts up a tourist map pointing someone off a bridge and they wouldn't hold any responsibility in your mind, not a tiny bit of moral responsibility if someone drove off the bridge while following the map's advice?

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[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (5 children)

In what world are you holding corporations to moral rather than legal definitions? This is about legal liability.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

You don't think corporations have any sort of moral responsibility? That's fucked up, ngl. Of course corporations should have moral responsibility for their actions (or inaction).

This is about legal liability.

I said "some responsibility". You mentioned legal liability. I think there's lots more to responsibility than just who is legally liable. To me that seems like a no brainer.

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[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (3 children)

This is an article about being sued. If your want to change the scope you should be specific to what you're expanding too.

And no, corporations are run by thousands of people all with a wide and diverse definition of ethical. I do not place ethical standards on them whatsoever. I expect them to act within the legal limits of the country of operation and what public opinion will tolerate. To expect anything otherwise is silly.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I just talked about responsibility. It by default is a wider thing than just legal responsibility.

And no, corporations are run by thousands of people all with a wide and diverse definition of ethical. I do not place ethical standards on them whatsoever.

That's fucking grim.

what public opinion will tolerate

What is that public opinion based on if not in part on moral judgement?

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[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

The public is happy to buy from companies that engage in unethical behavior. There is a higher bar that is tolerated before consumers will stop purchasing products however.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago

I just meant that that's often morality based, as in general public holds companies to some moral standard. Often it's a fairly low standard though, as you've pointed out.

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[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago (8 children)

Bizarre thinking.

Thanks for the warning.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (7 children)

As much as I disagree with the idea that corporations don't have a moral responsibility I suggest you read their comment anyway, since otherwise the convo doesn't make much sense.

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[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (6 children)

You're confused.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago (5 children)

Sure am. I just can't wrap my head around the idea that someone giving someone directions would have zero part in the eventual accident when those directions were faulty.

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[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (4 children)

You should keep trying, because that is the only logical conclusion.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

You think it's logical to say someone giving directions had no part in what happened? Zero part, had nothing to do it?

Right... Logical.

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[–] ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Having a part and being responsible are two very different things. You are moving the bar 🤣.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

They obviously have responsibility for their part... 🤦‍♂️

You are moving the bar

You previously replied to me asking if they have no part and said "that is the only logical conclusion"... If you didn't get what I meant you should've probably mentioned this moving the bar then and not after you gave a silly answer to the question. Better look if nothing else.

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[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago

haha what

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