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Will you be willing to pay for using Twitter? (variety.com)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Elon Musk said he will charge all X/Twitter users a fee to be on the platform. He suggested that such a change would be necessary to deal with the problem of bots on the platform.

“It’s the only way I can think of to combat vast armies of bots," said Elon. I can’t believe that this is the only solution he can think of.

Dealing with bots would be Elon Musk’s responsibility, considering he’s the only one profiting significantly from X, not us. Elon Musk steals our data and censors each of our posts, now he even expects us to pay to clean up the mess he created.

Plus, the problems with X go beyond just bots. The algorithm and programming decisions are negatively impacting user experience and manipulating people’s minds.

We want a town square where everyone is free to have & voice an opinion. I do not believe we have to pay ”a small monthly payment” for such a place, especially in a country that should value these freedoms & suppressing ideas.

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[–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

let's not pretend mastodon is a viable alternative at this time. sure, it's not an ad-algo-hellscape yet (meta will change that tho) but you're at the mercy of whatever powertripping admin you have to deal on the instance you're on. unless you tune into the echo chamber most instances are, you're not going to have interesting conversations. it's very slow, has barebone features and there is a lack of actually interesting oc posting people on the masto side of the fediverse.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I feel like these comments are from folks who haven't really used it. The traffic on your specific instance isn't really the point most of the time. And the fact that you can find another instance easily if the guy in charge of your instance is an asshole is a pretty huge feature. Who runs the other instance of Twitter you can move to?

    You can migrate your account and followers/following lists until you find an instance where the admin isn't a "power tripping asshole" - and I'm not convinced that's a widespread problem in any case.

    The Mastodon interface is kinda barebones though still not as bad as I think you are describing, but I migrated (gasp) my entire mastodon account to firefish.social, which federates with Mastodon, with a couple of clicks, and the interface and features there are really great. (And there are also multiple firefish instances to choose from in case the admin becomes an power tripping asshole)

    But most importantly:

    unless you tune into the echo chamber most instances are, you're not going to have interesting conversations

    Why wouldn't you be following people from the broader fediverse? The federated feed on firefish (and on most instances I'd think) scrolls by so fast I have to pause it to read anything. There's plenty being posted. Certainly no less comparatively than I see on kbin/lemmy, and it gets better continuously.

    I'm all for using what you like and avoiding what you don't, but this is like an infomercial-level criticism of Mastodon, like when they spend 45 secs showing you how hard it is to scramble eggs and cook them without their forty dollar gadget.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    i've been on two instances since last fall: one mastodon, one pleroma.

    on the mastodon one i found out by accident, that i was "shadowbanned" from it's own public timeline. inquiring why this happend, the mods didn't told me. when i asked then that i would like to know what i did "wrong" and if they could lift this, they said "no". i deleted my account after that.

    the pleroma one was even worse because literally on day one i was zerged by some american internet rightwingers because i posted something they didn't agree with. i deleted my account after that.

    what do you suggest, how many times should i move/delete my account until i found an instance that at least gives me the twitter treatment instead of just doing random policy?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    I mean, I already recommended firefish.social, but you are under no obligation to try it. My point is that your experience is very much not typical I think.

    In any case, if you plunk "left leaning mastodon instances" into your search engine of choice that would probably work, but you could also try a popular instance which would address several of your concerns. If firefish doesn't interest you with its various improvements to the UI, why not just go for the original and (I think) biggest - mastodon.social.

    https://mastodon.social/auth/sign_up

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    on the mastodon one i found out by accident, that i was “shadowbanned” from it’s own public timeline.

    I'm not sure that's actually possible for a mod to do on Mastodon. Did you make your posts "unlisted" by default by accident?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    mod/admin/whover was behind the support mail address told me, that someone made a complaint about my account (they refused to tell me what the problem was) and that they unlisted/shadowbanned me from the servers public timeline.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    The microblogging side of the Fediverse definitely has a cultural problem: people keep thinking that the instance that they join should be an indication of what "tribe" you belong to, and this can be worse that high-school politics. The only way that you can truly avoid issues with power-tripping admins is by running your own instance, but even that doesn't help much when there are some instances around (cough mastodon art cough) that seem to love the drama and play the "everything I don't like is literally hitler" game.

    Anyway, if you are still looking for an alternative: I have a small, professionally managed Mastodon instance that has the simple goal of offering a reliable service at an affordable price.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    It works "well enough".

    unless you tune into the echo chamber most instances are, you’re not going to have interesting conversations.

    I don't get this. I've had many interesting conversations with people on Mastodon. And there are a number of interesting people I follow.

    there is a lack of actually interesting oc posting people on the masto side of the fediverse.

    This is a problem solved by more people joining... And from my POV Mastodon is far more stable and mature than Lemmy is. I've had better conversations there without being swarmed by tankies and ultra-partisans as well.

    Perhaps you've chosen bad people to follow?

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