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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bullshit that EVs aren't part of the climate solution. Cars will never go fully away, suburbs will never go fully away, rural areas where food is grown will never go away and EVs and green transportation tech needs to continue to advance and be part of the climate solution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rural areas could be not car-centric

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mass transit isn't going to plow and plant a a field there buddy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with that, friend? Car doesn't do it either, specialised equipment does. We are talking about people moving around, not working equipment.
The fact that you work on a field or whatever doesn't mean that your village can't have a bus route and your town can't have a tram line

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough, let's delve into moving people in rural areas then if that's what you want to focus on and I'm going to focus on rural America, where I grew up where even to this day it's still less than 200 people in town and the cows outnumber the people.

There's been a ton of studies that show mass transit in rural areas don't work well, it's inefficient because of density, distance, and terrain. Rural America isn't the same as rural Europe, America is much, much more spread out. There have been some interest in more of the on demand services but they aren't exactly what you'd call mass transit more of a car pooling service, it kind of works but it's mostly there to service the elderly, which is another problem with rural America. Most places in Europe you're only a hour or two away from a major city, you don't have the same here and a bus isn't going to cut it and a train isn't going to happen even if America actually goes train happy because of distances, you'll need to get to a central location with a car to catch that train because that's how shit is just spread out in America.

You seem to think that each little town is self contained, here's the thing with a lot of rural America, it's isn't. My town I grew up in, my friends town 4 miles over isn't, my other friend 15 miles away isn't. Where we grew up the closest place with a grocery store was 20+ miles away and combine that with again density and terrain, since a lot of us, including myself didn't live in town, mass transit like your talking about isn't always feasible, convenient, or sustainable.

And again, it's not a stupid zero sum game here. Cars aren't going away anytime soon, face reality here, they're not and you can do more than one thing at at time to address climate change and EV's for people, for grain, for vegetables are part of that solution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bro like 80% of the population lives in/near cities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One way you're another, you're going to need semis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

We are talking about people moving around, not working vehicles.
But also, if you have a good rail network you kinda don't need that many semis, if any. Specialised small vans will do the trick.