I don't remember this being an issue in my previous relationships, although those scenarios were different since we were always friends/colleagues first and met organically. They would pay a lot of the times, especially early dates.

Now, I've been taking a different approach with dating and trying to meet a few more people on the app rather than narrowing down to one right away. But there are a couple guys who either asked to split the first date or if I could cover the tip which was awkward because of the detailed allocation that would be needed. That said, I had offered first as I don't want them thinking I'm taking them for granted. Ultimately the one who asked me to cover tip footed the entire bill which must have been over $100. I covered our second date which was around $78 and then offered to chip in again on our third date, to which he said let's split it down the middle. It's confusing because I've heard guys will ask to split the bill if the date isn't going well, but we seem to be getting along well and chemistry/banter is great. While I'm glad he eventually covered the first one, the tip thing is still odd and I also did cover our second date. I know many women will expect to not even touch their card for at least the first five dates. The way I see it, why does it need to be split so evenly each date when we can just take turns and it settles over time, and if not, we still enjoyed the time spent together.

I can't help but wonder - for the vast majority of the time, do guys really split the bill relative to how interested they are? Women, do you feel offended if they do or don't mind, even if you value chivalry? Do you offer to chip in, or just see if the man covers it or asks to split? Should I stop offering in general, and should I keep seeing this particular guy if I like him otherwise? I should note that I'm also between jobs with one lined up, so is this the main reason they're hesitant? I'd really appreciate any help or advice!

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[–] 1 point 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Y'all are going on dates? In this economy?

All joking aside, I really have no idea, but from my general perception I think the times have changed a little bit and I don't think that the correlation to how much the partner pays on a date is directly related to how enjoyable they are finding it is going. Now that being said, I haven't really dated, well, much ever. Like maybe 30 years ago I covered a girl's date when we went to an Arby's so she could teach me about au jus sauce to dip sandwiches in which I had never heard of. And I think I probably bummed that money off of my mom. I know if I have money I would probably try to offer to cover things. But I do know times are tough for a lot of people and maybe they don't always have money to cover really expensive dinners and tips for dates. Also, I have noticed that when I was engaged a few years back to my high school sweetheart (notice the was) that I had tried to pay for a lot of things and oftentimes they would shoot me down because they didn't like the feeling of having somebody cover everything for them. I know even 10 years ago I just tried to hold the door for a co-worker walking up behind me (coincidentally exactly the same age as me and born the exact same hospital on the exact day, not necessarily relevant but I still can't get over it), they let me know that a few years prior they would have gotten really upset if somebody tried to do that, like it would make them feel like they weren't supposed to be capable to open the door themselves. They said they did appreciate it now, but I take that mindset into consideration anytime I hold the door open for someone now, that they might take it the wrong way. To me it was just a matter of the way I was raised, being respectful and courteous, even to strangers, trying to accommodate friends and associates and heck possible romantic interests. and I guess I hold the door for pretty much anybody generally. I've tried to cover things financially when circumstances allowed, and with groups when on excursions when I was able. But perhaps there is a shift in the way that "chivalry" is perceived in these modern times. Maybe somebody else can chime in with some actual advice. I'm sorry if this is all just kind of anecdotal nonsense and ramling. I am curious myself as to what people have to say on the topic though. Personally I would never be banking on anyone to cover my meal, and come prepared to pay regardless.

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