▲ 26 ▼ DSA Is Eyeing a 2028 AOC Presidential Run (jacobin.com) submitted 1 day ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/usa@lemmy.ml 23 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] durably465@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago (13 children) Won't happen. 4 reasons : woman not white USA is a deeply racist state she's a woman and not white permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago Can't wait for these to go away when Harris announces her 2028 run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago* Liberals continue not to understand that republican-lite isn't a winning strategy demonstrates how racist and sexist they are. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children) We are at the point in which the rascism and sexism that fills the 30% of this country that still supports Trump is convincing the other 70% that a good candidate is impossible. Stop just repeating the same garbage that they believe as if it's the reason we shouldn't support the best candidate with enough name recognition and support to actually win AND create a material change for people in this country trying to pay for groceries. You're just being MAGA by proxy. Mexico has a socialist, Jewish, female president. Mexico isn't some "woke" fucking country. And it's definitely not Jewish. Americans (70%) wants a president that doesn't fuck them over at every turn and actually offers them something that isn't tax cuts to the rich. Grow the fuck up. Don't tell me we need another fucking Biden or a Neoliberal zionist from California or fucking Georgia. Fucking put me in a camp first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) What makes you think that @durably465@lemmy.ml thinks you shouldn’t support. They are just being jokingly doomer I suppose. BTW also forgot to mention “communism something something” as one of the reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* Doomerism is just the final stage of liberal thought. It's reactionary bull shit. It also wasn't written as a joke beyond just doubling down on reactionary ideas. It was written as a means to give up. I'm tired of that useless type of shit and it's past 12am here so I'm cranky, unmedicated, and not able to sleep. I'll stand by the frustration even if it wasn't warranted to the specific comment. permalink fedilink source parent [+] durably465@lemmy.ml -14 points 1 day ago (5 children) Stop living in a fairy tale gringo! What happen to Hillary and Kamala? Don't tell me they were incompetent to be president. Your country prefer a buffon serial rapist overt them. When the orange buffon will be done and gone, do you believe that something will magically happen and everything will be back to normal again? Trump is a symptom, YOU as a whole have to deal with your own deamons. So stop living in a fairy tale permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) What happened? They succeeded in accomplishing the near impossible task of being more unlikable and horrible than that orange clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (1 child) And they prefer to vote or to abstaint. Letting the worst candidat to ne elected. And this happen twice. So yeah I'm pretty realist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago if these nasty genocidal people is what they propose as 'alternative' then they deserve to lose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The fairy tale is the doomerism that keeps you from action. There is no alternative thought here. Not from you. Not from the original comment. It is acceptance of loss and nothing more. Your criticism is that I am not pre-accepting of defeat. It's not of AoC as a candidate. It's not offering a better alternative. It is that I am frustrated with someone repeating reactionary talking points but just saying they are bad. We know they are bad. I care about working to change them. And accepting defeat as the "inevitable reality" is not helpful. I'd rather live in a "fairytale" trying to change things than living in a "reality" of doomerism that is nothing more than the last part of your liberal individualism refusing to die. Grow the fuck up. The fascist are as unpopular as they have ever been right now. Show some backbone and give more than just "it won't work". If you got a better path I'm all ears. I want to end wars and support for genocide. Gimme a better candidate to support. I'll wait... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 day ago Fairy tale! Yes you are deep inside. Proof? OK. Columbine was 27 years ago, and what happen since? 5 presidents, republicans and democrats. And what happen? Nothing. Still school shooting. You live in your fairy tale, hopping that something will change. The reality is your country is stuck somewhere in the past, and the rest of the world is moving. Please downvote me it's on me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SirSmoothAES@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago* Not that it matters to me because I view them as imperialists anyway, but the US elected Obama, a black man falsely framed as a Muslim, not once but twice. The very next election cycle Hillary Clinton, a woman that ran on little more than being a woman, won the popular vote. If AOC runs and loses it will be because of things like gerrymandering, an electoral college that shouldn't exist and trillionaire Republicans outspending her campaign. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago ridiculous. He was the perfect example that it doesn't matter, as long as you serve the eternal interests of the uniparty. did you forget about Obama? And could've been a woman (twice if you consider Clinton the ghoul as human) were it not for their own appaling policies. AOC, being the astroturfed controlled opposition fake is perfect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago Can't wait for these to go away when Harris announces her 2028 run. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago* Liberals continue not to understand that republican-lite isn't a winning strategy demonstrates how racist and sexist they are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children) We are at the point in which the rascism and sexism that fills the 30% of this country that still supports Trump is convincing the other 70% that a good candidate is impossible. Stop just repeating the same garbage that they believe as if it's the reason we shouldn't support the best candidate with enough name recognition and support to actually win AND create a material change for people in this country trying to pay for groceries. You're just being MAGA by proxy. Mexico has a socialist, Jewish, female president. Mexico isn't some "woke" fucking country. And it's definitely not Jewish. Americans (70%) wants a president that doesn't fuck them over at every turn and actually offers them something that isn't tax cuts to the rich. Grow the fuck up. Don't tell me we need another fucking Biden or a Neoliberal zionist from California or fucking Georgia. Fucking put me in a camp first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) What makes you think that @durably465@lemmy.ml thinks you shouldn’t support. They are just being jokingly doomer I suppose. BTW also forgot to mention “communism something something” as one of the reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* Doomerism is just the final stage of liberal thought. It's reactionary bull shit. It also wasn't written as a joke beyond just doubling down on reactionary ideas. It was written as a means to give up. I'm tired of that useless type of shit and it's past 12am here so I'm cranky, unmedicated, and not able to sleep. I'll stand by the frustration even if it wasn't warranted to the specific comment. permalink fedilink source parent [+] durably465@lemmy.ml -14 points 1 day ago (5 children) Stop living in a fairy tale gringo! What happen to Hillary and Kamala? Don't tell me they were incompetent to be president. Your country prefer a buffon serial rapist overt them. When the orange buffon will be done and gone, do you believe that something will magically happen and everything will be back to normal again? Trump is a symptom, YOU as a whole have to deal with your own deamons. So stop living in a fairy tale permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) What happened? They succeeded in accomplishing the near impossible task of being more unlikable and horrible than that orange clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (1 child) And they prefer to vote or to abstaint. Letting the worst candidat to ne elected. And this happen twice. So yeah I'm pretty realist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago if these nasty genocidal people is what they propose as 'alternative' then they deserve to lose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The fairy tale is the doomerism that keeps you from action. There is no alternative thought here. Not from you. Not from the original comment. It is acceptance of loss and nothing more. Your criticism is that I am not pre-accepting of defeat. It's not of AoC as a candidate. It's not offering a better alternative. It is that I am frustrated with someone repeating reactionary talking points but just saying they are bad. We know they are bad. I care about working to change them. And accepting defeat as the "inevitable reality" is not helpful. I'd rather live in a "fairytale" trying to change things than living in a "reality" of doomerism that is nothing more than the last part of your liberal individualism refusing to die. Grow the fuck up. The fascist are as unpopular as they have ever been right now. Show some backbone and give more than just "it won't work". If you got a better path I'm all ears. I want to end wars and support for genocide. Gimme a better candidate to support. I'll wait... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 day ago Fairy tale! Yes you are deep inside. Proof? OK. Columbine was 27 years ago, and what happen since? 5 presidents, republicans and democrats. And what happen? Nothing. Still school shooting. You live in your fairy tale, hopping that something will change. The reality is your country is stuck somewhere in the past, and the rest of the world is moving. Please downvote me it's on me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 day ago (1 child) What makes you think that @durably465@lemmy.ml thinks you shouldn’t support. They are just being jokingly doomer I suppose. BTW also forgot to mention “communism something something” as one of the reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* Doomerism is just the final stage of liberal thought. It's reactionary bull shit. It also wasn't written as a joke beyond just doubling down on reactionary ideas. It was written as a means to give up. I'm tired of that useless type of shit and it's past 12am here so I'm cranky, unmedicated, and not able to sleep. I'll stand by the frustration even if it wasn't warranted to the specific comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* Doomerism is just the final stage of liberal thought. It's reactionary bull shit. It also wasn't written as a joke beyond just doubling down on reactionary ideas. It was written as a means to give up. I'm tired of that useless type of shit and it's past 12am here so I'm cranky, unmedicated, and not able to sleep. I'll stand by the frustration even if it wasn't warranted to the specific comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] durably465@lemmy.ml -14 points 1 day ago (5 children) Stop living in a fairy tale gringo! What happen to Hillary and Kamala? Don't tell me they were incompetent to be president. Your country prefer a buffon serial rapist overt them. When the orange buffon will be done and gone, do you believe that something will magically happen and everything will be back to normal again? Trump is a symptom, YOU as a whole have to deal with your own deamons. So stop living in a fairy tale permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) What happened? They succeeded in accomplishing the near impossible task of being more unlikable and horrible than that orange clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (1 child) And they prefer to vote or to abstaint. Letting the worst candidat to ne elected. And this happen twice. So yeah I'm pretty realist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago if these nasty genocidal people is what they propose as 'alternative' then they deserve to lose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The fairy tale is the doomerism that keeps you from action. There is no alternative thought here. Not from you. Not from the original comment. It is acceptance of loss and nothing more. Your criticism is that I am not pre-accepting of defeat. It's not of AoC as a candidate. It's not offering a better alternative. It is that I am frustrated with someone repeating reactionary talking points but just saying they are bad. We know they are bad. I care about working to change them. And accepting defeat as the "inevitable reality" is not helpful. I'd rather live in a "fairytale" trying to change things than living in a "reality" of doomerism that is nothing more than the last part of your liberal individualism refusing to die. Grow the fuck up. The fascist are as unpopular as they have ever been right now. Show some backbone and give more than just "it won't work". If you got a better path I'm all ears. I want to end wars and support for genocide. Gimme a better candidate to support. I'll wait... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 day ago Fairy tale! Yes you are deep inside. Proof? OK. Columbine was 27 years ago, and what happen since? 5 presidents, republicans and democrats. And what happen? Nothing. Still school shooting. You live in your fairy tale, hopping that something will change. The reality is your country is stuck somewhere in the past, and the rest of the world is moving. Please downvote me it's on me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (2 children) What happened? They succeeded in accomplishing the near impossible task of being more unlikable and horrible than that orange clown. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (1 child) And they prefer to vote or to abstaint. Letting the worst candidat to ne elected. And this happen twice. So yeah I'm pretty realist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago if these nasty genocidal people is what they propose as 'alternative' then they deserve to lose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] durably465@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (1 child) And they prefer to vote or to abstaint. Letting the worst candidat to ne elected. And this happen twice. So yeah I'm pretty realist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago if these nasty genocidal people is what they propose as 'alternative' then they deserve to lose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago if these nasty genocidal people is what they propose as 'alternative' then they deserve to lose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (1 child) The fairy tale is the doomerism that keeps you from action. There is no alternative thought here. Not from you. Not from the original comment. It is acceptance of loss and nothing more. Your criticism is that I am not pre-accepting of defeat. It's not of AoC as a candidate. It's not offering a better alternative. It is that I am frustrated with someone repeating reactionary talking points but just saying they are bad. We know they are bad. I care about working to change them. And accepting defeat as the "inevitable reality" is not helpful. I'd rather live in a "fairytale" trying to change things than living in a "reality" of doomerism that is nothing more than the last part of your liberal individualism refusing to die. Grow the fuck up. The fascist are as unpopular as they have ever been right now. Show some backbone and give more than just "it won't work". If you got a better path I'm all ears. I want to end wars and support for genocide. Gimme a better candidate to support. I'll wait... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] durably465@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 day ago Fairy tale! Yes you are deep inside. Proof? OK. Columbine was 27 years ago, and what happen since? 5 presidents, republicans and democrats. And what happen? Nothing. Still school shooting. You live in your fairy tale, hopping that something will change. The reality is your country is stuck somewhere in the past, and the rest of the world is moving. Please downvote me it's on me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] durably465@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 day ago Fairy tale! Yes you are deep inside. Proof? OK. Columbine was 27 years ago, and what happen since? 5 presidents, republicans and democrats. And what happen? Nothing. Still school shooting. You live in your fairy tale, hopping that something will change. The reality is your country is stuck somewhere in the past, and the rest of the world is moving. Please downvote me it's on me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SirSmoothAES@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago* Not that it matters to me because I view them as imperialists anyway, but the US elected Obama, a black man falsely framed as a Muslim, not once but twice. The very next election cycle Hillary Clinton, a woman that ran on little more than being a woman, won the popular vote. If AOC runs and loses it will be because of things like gerrymandering, an electoral college that shouldn't exist and trillionaire Republicans outspending her campaign. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago ridiculous. He was the perfect example that it doesn't matter, as long as you serve the eternal interests of the uniparty. did you forget about Obama? And could've been a woman (twice if you consider Clinton the ghoul as human) were it not for their own appaling policies. AOC, being the astroturfed controlled opposition fake is perfect. permalink fedilink source parent