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Listen here, kulak... (i.ibb.co)
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[–] 8 points 3 years ago (13 children)

The ideal of communism, maybe. Yet every country that called itself communist became authotarian. Why is that? Evil tongues might suggest that the ideal of communism simply fails to prevail when confronted with reality.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Reality being imperialist countries bombing you back into the stone age for not licking their boots.

    Stuff must get done to achieve ideals, building a strong state to defend from imperialist threats is basic marxist theory, literally 101 stuff. Marxism is built on materialism not idealism.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    No country has claimed to have achieved communism. Many other places have tried but it's usually crushed by capitalist or sometimes even by states claiming to be socialist. It's also a really simple and tbh ahistorical explanation to claim that communism didn't work simply because "it was confronted with reality".

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  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago* (7 children)

    No country has claimed to have achieved communism

    That may be your interpretation of that matter. But going with your interpretation, why is that? Maybe because communism fails every time anyone tries to make it a reality?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Do countries exist in a vacuum?

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    A country never exists in vacuum. So when would this work?

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    Exactly countries do not exist in a vacuum. Every single country that has worked for national sovereignty (not even explicitly socialism) has been subject to brutal aggressions from imperialist countries.

    Economic blockades, terrorism, invasions, coups, etc...

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    So communism is a pipedream

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