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Scientists call fraud on supposed extraterrestrials presented to Mexican Congress (apnews.com)

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Supposed aliens landed in Mexico’s Congress but there were no saucer-shaped UFOs hovering over the historic building or bright green invaders like those seen in Hollywood films.

The specter of little green men visited Mexico City as lawmakers heard testimony Tuesday from individuals suggesting the possibility that extraterrestrials might exist. The researchers hailed from Mexico, the United States, Japan and Brazil.

The session, unprecedented in the Mexican Congress, took place two months after a similar one before the U.S. Congress in which a former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer claimed his country has probably been aware of “non-human” activity since the 1930s.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

we’re not even allowing broad, legitimate discourse about this topic without mockery and eye brow raising.

Blame the decades (over a century?) of grifters taking advantage of people's gullibility.

It doesn't help that there is not a single solid proof, or that top secret information is not just available to anyone with a clearance, but only on a "need to know" basis. If there was actual proof, and there was an actual aircraft, or even actual contact... what would you do with that knowledge? Do you "need" to know, or just "want" to know?

As far as I see, there are three possible scenarios:

There is nothing, it's just a bunch of sensor glitches, visual illusions, and imagination from people who want to believe.
There are no ETs, just advanced technology, that no country wants to reveal before using it by surprise in the next war.
There are ETs, the technology is millennia more advanced than ours, for all intents and purposes it looks like magic, we can't reverse-engineer it, or stop it, or even properly detect it, and we may not even be the ones deciding who gets to know.

Which one would you want to believe?

I've personally known people whose accounts point to scenario 3... even I have personally seen things that have been hard to explain... but without proof, they could all be just a mix of 1 and 2.

Or a glitch in the Matrix 🤷

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I think people deserve to know if they have been gaslit by the government on this issue since the 1940s. We’re moving past a patriarchal society of blind deference to everything the government says and they have lied about many government programs in the past that have caused harm to citizens (LSD experiments in Canada as one relevant to my government).

I’m saying this as someone who believes in science and vaccines, however, I also grew up during the Iraq War and the thinly veiled excuses that the US made for that undertaking. I have a healthy distrust of the government, and I also pay taxes and deserve to know what I’m funding and whether we’re achieving intended results. There’s a lot of money and a lot of need.

I think what the whistleblowers and former government military personnel are alleging is compelling, especially if black programs funnelling money to private contractors are involved.

And from a human perspective, yeah I do want to know if there’s more to our existence because it just might change how I choose to live my life.

I don’t see the harm of the government saying: these videos are advanced technology. Why would they even release the videos of their own advanced technology and pretend they don’t know what it is? Wouldn’t it be tipping off an adversary to even show the video?

I think we’re in a weird space where if they don’t know what they are and they come from a foreign military then we’re in trouble (however, this has been going on for decades). If that’s the case then yeah make that case to the public and I’d want to fund the hell out of it.

Otherwise if we suspect that they’re completely innocuous and there’s a scientific or mundane explanation why not make fighter jet radar data available to scientists with clearance so they can study it? Why not go on the record and refute each and every video and claim? Why not make public the reports that are taken from fighter pilot sightings? Or even extraneous data like the number of military and civilian sightings that have been tracked?