There appears to be a few bad actors in the Lemmy community spreading ragebait for personal gain

In fact, the same mechanisms added at the beginning to catch bad human written code are the exact same that catch bad AI code

  1. No, the Linux kernel DOES NOT use AI to automatically approve code for inclusion. As far as I can tell, there are no plans to do so
  2. The Kernel actually has a huge number of maintainers. As part of the process, all patches are reviewed by a human who provide feedback as part of the process, and patches get bounced back and forth multiple time.
  3. Patches don't just magically go straight to master. The maintainers generally have their own branches where it goes to, then it goes to staging trees like Linux-Next. It goes through many eyes, and many tests by the end. The idea that AI code is overrunning the kernel is rediculous
  4. Maintainers also check that the code meets coding guidelines and is written properly, and solves the problem they are trying to solve. Yes, they also ensure the code isn't slop
  5. LLM's though might be used to identify obvious problems with the code (which they are VERY good at), or even identify code that doesn't follow coding guidelines.
  6. The only thing that matters is the human who submitted the code, as they should be checking the code submitted anyway (including LLM generated code)

Writing bad code isn't something new, and isn't unique to LLM's. Coders (and it seems some "journalists") have been writing slop since computers were invented.

The process hasn't gotten less stringent (probably even MORE stringent as there is an additional set of robotic eyes that can also check), and the same mechanisms that were put in place to catch badly written code 10 years ago, are still there now.. With no changes.

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[–] 9 points 2 hours ago (6 children)

Yeah but what if you care about AI ethics?

Slop is multifaceted

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  • [–] 6 points 1 hour ago* (1 child)

    most of the "ethics" are technology limitations, or simply issues inherent to capitalism. and by the way, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, the same morals arise when you interact with anything that the market touches. do you think your goods are produced fair and square? do you even know the amounts of labour theft that occurred for you to wipe yo ass with a toilet paper? if you gon tell me then that you oppose all that too. good, you're a comrade of mine and a marxist it seems even tho you dont know. but now that you hold that position, you need to understand is capital u against, not some tech.

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  • [–] 1 point 14 minutes ago

    Yeah but its different killing a kid to inherit an Xbox vs buying a basket from a small busniss owner. So there's some nuance to it.

    Mass copyright infringement proping up majority of the US economy during a self-induced recession is probably on the more nuanced end if you ask me, not Jesus' second coming (or electricities second coming, or the next PDF, or any other buzzword you need)

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    The ethics sucks, but that's an entirely different conversation. AI companies should be taxed and forced to pay royalties to creators imho (and yes, that would instantly kill the industry).. And, it should be Opt in specifically.

    But, that's not what people are arguing about when calling the kernel "AI Slop". The bad information I've seen is that standards have dropped and even claims that kernel patches aren't being reviewed properly. Some are even suggesting that the only review that happens is AI.

    Bad AI patches are no different to Bad human patches.. And the process has always been to identify bad patches specifically. The process doesn't need to change

    If anything, the standards have actually been raised because initial code reviews with AI are possibly better at identifying code that doesn't follow coding standards, identifying common bugs (or similar patch attempts that were tried in the past but don't work), or obvious bugs

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  • [–] 1 point 8 minutes ago

    That is a good point and I agree, people might get lazy with AI but thats doing a disservice to the same people who were lazy without it tbh.

    The existing devs haven't changed and there's no reason to believe AI will change them more than anything else going on.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 minutes ago

    Why is it an entirely different conversation? Or rather, why do you think that this conversation is not what the AI-opposition are concerned about? (At least some of us are)

    By analogy, many of us leaped in to social media 20 years ago. 15+ years later, there was wide recognition that the new technology brought with it a shitload of undesirable outcomes that were completely unpredictable at the outset. The same can be said of fossil fuel use, as well as factory automation. Why would you not take lessons from those? Especially given what you know about the arseholes running the GenAI companies?

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