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Linus Torvalds Working On A Hefty Linux Kernel Improvement With Claude Code (www.phoronix.com)
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It seems Linus's position is very clear now

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[–] 31 points 14 hours ago (17 children)

People cannot seem to grasp that there is a difference in using LLMs to experiment and just blindly using code written by an LLM. You'd think they would realize Linus is never going to do the latter. Binary thinking leads to this...

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  • [–] 11 points 12 hours ago (12 children)

    is there a difference in the environmental destruction when used this way? no? these things have so many negative effects on the world in so many areas that making life more convenient for coddled computer touches doesn’t excuse literally any of it

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  • [–] 3 points 12 hours ago (11 children)

    is there a difference in the environmental destruction when used this way?

    Yes. There is no doubt that if you use an LLM for everything that will use several fold more times electricity than someone who uses it a few times a year.

    Like I said, binary thinking. You're literally saying there is no difference in 1 and 1000000 because both are more than zero.

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  • [–] 8 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

    so the less you use it, the better? glad we can agree

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  • [–] -2 points 4 hours ago

    burning a million gallons of desil to get a 1% efficiency improvement in all desil engines will result in less total desil consumption in less than a year. The linux kernel is used enough you need to consider the billions of users that will each get a small efficiency improvement.

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

    Right, so we know Linus has used Claude for one project. You are saying there is no excuse for that and I don't agree. I don't think it makes sense to take absolute stances against things that will undoubtedly be used by most everyone eventually. Just like I think cars are generally bad, I'm not about to get pissed off at everyone who drives them.

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  • [–] 2 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

    the earth doesn’t care if you think this is a good use or linus is somehow worthy when the regular plums aren’t.

    dario and his epstein wife sure do though. so keep going to bat for them

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  • [–] -2 points 11 hours ago* (6 children)

    Your absolutism will take you nowhere. No one will bother to even listen you because you aren't able to communicate about this topic.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

    i’m glad you have a word to hug and hold when you feel threatened by people who are different from you

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  • [–] -4 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

    Lmfao dude you are demonizing anyone who uses any LLM the same as someone who uses it constantly and irresponsibly. Who is threatened by people different from them? You're embodying exactly the out of touch rage I'm criticizing.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    the issue is the use, not the user, and who and what it supports, directly and indirectly. you’re just trotting out a word so you don’t have to think anymore. you like the tech and don’t want to feel bad about it

    tough

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  • [–] -4 points 11 hours ago* (2 children)

    you’re just trotting out a word so you don’t have to think anymore.

    Firstly, it's an incredibly accurate description of what you're doing here

    Secondly, you have no clue what views I hold and you're not even slightly curious. The only reason you commented here was to make my day a little worse. You think it's justified because of your pigheaded refusal to accept reality. But it's not.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

    you don’t know me, my thinking, or my motivations, and yet have no problem accusing me of absolutism

    irony ain’t dead yet, and projection ain’t just a river in egypt

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  • [–] 6 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

    LLM companies will legitimize their shit by saying "look, Linus is using our model to make Linux better".

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  • [–] -1 points 12 hours ago* (2 children)

    Okay, and? So he should either change his own processes or keep them secret because some dickbag might claim he's legitimized their product?

    I think people in a bubble like this platform seem to miss that AI tools are already "legitimized". I am not stating an opinion, I'm just saying what the average person thinks, which is that they are useful. The reality is a lot more complicated than that and I think they're leading us bad places but I don't think your argument works at all

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  • [–] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    The tools are "legitimized" by a mass ad campaign to shove LLMs down our throats.

    Linus is a very influential person in this space and hin using Claude for whatever project he has will legitimize the massive ad campaign that LLMs companies are pushing. It's a jackpot for them. Organic publicity by one of the biggest nerd of the world.

    Any push towards LLMs is only benefiting the ultra wealthy and destroying the planet. And this is exactly what this piece of news is doing.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 hours ago

    Even if you were right this message would be irrelevant to 99% of the population and within the 1% who know or care who he is, minimum 75% wouldn't be swayed by him saying that. Plus, him saying he used it is not praise.

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