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Linus Torvalds Working On A Hefty Linux Kernel Improvement With Claude Code (www.phoronix.com)
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[–] 15 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I can vouch for that: As a programmer, I can generally see both programming AI and general LLM use if it was copy-pasted. I know a guy who isn't a programmer who've used Claude Code to make an app, and things are working, but it's sooo clear even to a junior SE that it's vibe-coded. There's a clear lack of consistency, architecture, maintainability, and general human readability.
However, if the code/text was reviewed and edited by a capable human programmer, it's incredibly difficult to single out what is a product of AI and not.

Actual programmers who understand and can write code themselves who use AI simply as a tool, NOT a shortcut, will produce indistinguishable code. Linus is an incredibly smart and capable guy, and for specific uses, I'm confident in him using this tool responsibly.

(The ethics of AI use is a different topic however...)

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  • [–] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    How do you see the longevity of it. You obviously learnt how to code before ai. What about those learning now that are learning only having access to ai. Id anticipate the quality over time will deteriorate

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  • [–] 4 points 4 hours ago

    I think we'll unfortunately see a degradation over time of capable programmers, as it's with most other things: Humans learn poorly from seeing things being done for them, rather than doing it themselves. AI can be a good resource for iteration and a sort of rubber duck, and even for explaining things (with external confirmation). But as it currently stands, people find it much more attractive to just let AI do the work for them. That's the most prominent work culture after all, based on capitalistic values: Economic growth above all.

    I see it in schools as well, unfortunately: Students find it much more appealing to get good grades than to actually learn. Not everyone, of course, but still way too many.

    And I do understand many of the students: The bar for junior programmers has now increased, as a lot of employers simply think "why hire a human that is on the same level as AI?".

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