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Chromecast (the device) is dead, what can I use now? (lemmy.world)
submitted 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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I've had a Chromecast for almost a decade, and it had mostly been great. They cost £30 at the time, and let you cast from most media apps, even if they didn't really have their own UI. You could take it to a friends house / hotel, power it off of the USB port on the back of most TVs and you'd be off to the races.

Given that they are now discontinued and my old one doesn't support 4K and casting from some newer apps (maybe a lack of AV1 / h265 support?), I'm looking for a replacement.

I'm looking for a privacy-respecting device in a vaguely stick-like format that will support casting from Android. It having support for apps is a nice to have for me.

Before you say "well if you use YouTube / Plex it's not private because they collect data about what you watch", sure, that may be true, but I'd rather not have the stick itself also do ACR on everything I cast as well.

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[–] 3 points 11 hours ago* (7 children)

Apple TV 🤷

No ads, very little base level telemetry. Very good app support because of the large install base. I still run the first gen ATV 4k and just this latest tvOS version is the first update it didn’t get. Everything still works as normal.

Rumours say there’s a new one coming this month, but we’ll see.

If you are more of a hacker type, the Nvidia Shield is relatively ancient hardware wise but still top tier if you throw away the Google shit and spend some time with 3rd party tools.

And you can get 4k Chromecasts for like 19€ used, even the ones with the remote included.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    very little base level telemetry

    tcpdump on an appletv I did in 2024 disagrees. I can't imagine it's any better today.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child)

    And what did your tcpdump reveal?

    LG levels of bullshittery? Or Sony style fingerprinting of anything on the screen?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 hours ago*

    Connections to apple streaming source CIDR blocks, connections to apple auth CIDR blocks, and a bunch of ips in apple blocks I have no idea what they do.

    Apple domains are easy to identify. https://support.apple.com/en-us/101555

    A lot of it associated with iTunes and apple store stuff like mzstatic.com but also https connections to unknown domains. It's almost all https, so impossible to say what's being sent.

    The content streams are easy to pick out, because only a handful of stateful sessions go to known CDNs.

    Why starting a movie or show on an apple TV requires a check to siri and search is probably explainable, but certainly 1400 requests during movie play to diagassets.apple.com (the "diagnostics" domain known to be a black hole of Apple mystery) is probably reporting data of some kind.

    It goes on like that, mysterious connections that occur during video play and at startup to domains like Apple Education raise a few eyebrows.

    And then there are the plugins, which do a lot of phoning home.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 hours ago

    SYK, Apple has little telemetry because they don't want 3rd party access. Instead, they keep all that data for themselves to build out massive user data profiles, then monetize it mostly anonymously. So while it's "minimized" somehow, it's not necessarily better. Apple is just better at not letting everyone get your data ASAP like google. But then again everything is hush hush so it's hard to tell if they're actually better.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    I don't have any other Apple devices, and I really want to be able to cast from my apps to the device, so I can keep watching something I have started seamlessly.

    Is that possible on the Apple TV?

    Thanks for the reply.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago*

    Most of the apps I use directly support casting to their respective ATV apps.

    YouTube 100% works with any device, but I don’t have a daily driver Android so can’t confirm other apps.

    TBH most apps exist natively on the Apple TV so “casting” something to it is a non-issue. It’s more of a Chromecast thing to use your phone as the source, leaving the relatively underpowered Chromecast puck just for pure video streaming.

    Apple TV on the other hand is massively overpowered for most stuff people use it for.

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