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How can self-hosted software make money without hurting the ecosystem? (lemmy.world)
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To be clear, I'm not looking to make any meaningful money off my own project (which is "just" a dashboard).

But if we want self-hosted software to become a real alternative to commercial services, we need people, especially developers, to care enough to build and maintain it.

Sure, AI is changing things. It's easier than ever to build your own software, but even with AI, I wouldn't be able to replace all the online services I use. And I doubt most people would either. Building something is one thing, maintaining it over the years is another. It's still a serious amount of free time to dedicate to something.

What actually got me thinking about this was Heaper, a self-hosted cloud alternative that uses CRDTs. I'd really like to see it succeed because it's doing something genuinely different from what's already out there.

And I think those are exactly the kinds of projects we should be supporting. Software that offers real value in everyday use and gives people a reason to move away from commercial services.

But relying on donations clearly isn't enough to sustain development for most projects. Providing a hosted version does conflict with the main idea of a service being self-hosted.

Then there are apps like Plex, which keep raising their subscription prices. At some point, you have to wonder what the financial benefit of self-hosting even is if every service comes with another subscription.

I'm not saying self-hosting always needs to be cheaper. I'm fine with paying for good software, especially if it supports the people developing it. But part of the appeal of self-hosting is having control over your own services without having to worry about a growing list of recurring bills.

Larger open-source projects can sometimes fund development through business licenses or public funding, but that doesn't necessarily work for smaller projects.

I don't really have a solution here. I just think we need better ways to financially support the developers building software we actually want to use, without turning self-hosting into another collection of subscriptions.

What do you think would be a reasonable way to fund these projects?

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[–] 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure I’ve got the idea properly, but if so, I agree. I think offering help with self-hosting may generate decent income for a developer. Plus, give them insight into their users.

E.g. I have this idea to develop a set of neat Immich servers for friends (for free, but they buy needed hardware, say, Mac mini or something similar). As an extension of this idea, sell pre-made Immich-ready servers for general public, with the initial setup and extra support being paid. Including the donation to the original project off the money, if their licence allows selling the support. I expect it is, but haven’t investigated that further. Treat this as an example of the idea.

Obviously, this model would work for your own software. Perhaps, that’s not the fuck-you-money you can get with this, but still that may be more than open source projects get via the shallow donations that they usually get.

I have some ideas for some for-me software, which can live on any computer. So I think of deploying a fleet of SBC (Raspberry / Orange Pi or alike) servers to gift to friends, with bunch of neat services there, like Pi-Hole, etc. Plus some of made by me software, if I think the particular friend may have a use for it. The extension of this idea might be the broader audience. Won’t likely to be millions of users, but still. And who knows, one day … perhaps.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    Thats not what they were talking about.

    I'm going to use netbird VPN as an example.

    You can use it like tailacale on their infrusturcture. Pay them to host the controller, and get slots for your machines to connect in a peer connection.

    Their entire stakc is also open source and self hostable. Have your own server to act as a controller? Host it yourself 100% free.

    So if you dont wanna host it, yoy pay the dev to host it for you.

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