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I wish we stopped besmirching the act of suicide (piefed.blahaj.zone)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) by to c/mentalhealth@lemmy.world
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There was somebody posting these lyrics in other community as something that spoke to them:

You know, suicide isn’t painless,
When you leave everyone in pain.
NOFX - Doornails

Anybody has the right to have any lyrics - or any thing really - to mean whatever it needs to mean to them. But...

I lost a dear colleague and friend to suicide just a week ago and I am myself passively suicidal. Bullying people that contemplate ending their suffering into staying alive or tainting the names and acts of those that already did is just not the way to go.

Edit: this is not critique towards the person who commented those lyrics, but against that artist and society in general.

I just had to rant. Feel free to believe or react in any way that feels right to you.

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[–] 32 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Hi, I posted these lines. These lyrics are partly the reason why I'm still here today. A friend of mine quoted these exact lines to me when I was at my lowest point. I never understood them as bullying. They gave me another reason not to give up. Life can get better after depression. I didn't mean to offend anyone and I'm sorry for your loss.

A little info about this song:

This song is dedicated to all the people who did drugs (like the singer himself), but suffered and died because of it. All the people mentioned in this song were Fat Mike’s friends, except for his mother of course.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 days ago* (7 children)

    Thanks so much for sharing and I am genuinely happy that you are still with us!🩷

    I can absolutely see these lyrics being the words of somebody grieving, so I don't mean to take away the validity of what they mean to the artist or to you. I also have a friend who is still alive only because I reminded her how much pain her passing would cause me. I don't know if I'd react the same today, or use the same words as I did back then.

    Again, I am not upset at all, at all. The lyrics just clashed with my current perception of suicide and society's common trend of victim blaming.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    Eh, you’re kinda victim blaming rn.

    Real talk, conmect w people who knew your friend and grieve w them properly. Talk about the good, bad, and utterly absurd times. Maybe you’ll enumerate enough of a why to be graced with some semblance of closure.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Eh, you’re kinda victim blaming rn. Could you be more specific? How and what victim am I blaming?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago* (4 children)

    Because I raged for 10m fixing the formatting, you can break lines from a quote by adding an extra newline between the > and where you start actual dialogue.

    The victims are the band members, and the singer, who have lost people to suicide, and the pain - like you’re going through - is expressed in the lyrics your denegrating.

    Sure you can be upset at society, but don’t get mad at an artist for making art that hits a bit too close to home rn.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Interpret my post however you want. I don't think I could've been any clearer on that this is my personal take on the matter.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    And I’m just reacting in a way that feels right to me. I hope you find solace fam, we’re all here if you need to chat.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Thanks! ^^ What's "fam"? xD My internet lingo is... Outdated.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago

    It’s a colloquialism for “family” in the American Urban diaspora, with roots in the Black diaspora. Its a gender neutral term that denotes respect and love, but taken from an observational stance.

    So if someone is being an asshole one would say, “aight, fam.” to keep it short and change the pace of a conversation. On the flip, my usage is embedded in context, so it could be casually associated w Dude, Bro, Girl, etc. on a more harmonic tone.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    I had forgotten about that song, thank you for bringing it back into my ethos. Helped me a lot growing up as well.

    For me the lyrics that always did and still hold me here some days: Please tell mom this is not her fault.

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