I’m very much a luddite when it comes to AI, I’m unequivocally against its usage and development. The social and environmental costs AI incurs and proposes to incur are overwhelming. The celebration of AI with Chinese characteristics is often justified by the idea that AI can be useful, and the reason why it’s OK to be vehemently against it otherwise but support it when it’s being implemented by China is because AI can only be a force for evil within the capitalist framework. I agree with the latter point obviously but find it hard to accept that China driving AI advancement is a good thing for the world.

I don’t want to have a debate about whether China is a revisionist state, but I think we can all agree that China has refused to take the role of the Soviet Union in exporting socialism to the world. What happens when it exports AI to countries world over that very much operate within a capitalist framework while China does nothing to advance world wide socialism?

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[–] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

my comment was not about AI specifically, but in regards to AI specifically, what the US is doing in terms of AI seems like paperclip maximalist clown show, while what the China is doing seems like a practical steeleman of what next generation automation could be. The US is ahead on some technical merits, but it's clear to me that China is winning on practical applications, efficiency, aspects related to manufacturing, and most importantly, the not-shitting-all-over-your-citizens aspect of it.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 12 hours ago

    aspects related to manufacturing,

    Has this improved manufacturing productivity been evidenced by any metric? We all love the concept of FALGSC being implemented and that’s the underlying premise for the wonder of it being built in China but I’m still extremely skeptical of its benefits even in China.

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