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0w0 we can't get violent, we have to use the tools that capitalism provides us to fight them! It'll totally work! We just have to voteee!!! - liberals (thelemmy.club)
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[+] -7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

You can say they aren't really the "boss" but fact remains that voting shapes how the conflict plays out. Voting is choosing the quality of the boss fight.

But thank you for this. In the future I will say "boss fight" instead of "boss" to be more clear.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago (16 children)

    Voting is choosing the quality of the boss fight.

    It really isn't. Did the Dems close Guantanamo? No. Did they defund the Police or ICE? No infact they oversaw record funding. Did they codify roe v wade? No. Did they do anything to slow or stop the foreign child crushing machine? No.

    Pr is the only real difference and unfortunately pr is immaterial.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 days ago* (15 children)

    The party responds to those fighting in accordance to their PR. A dem will opt for more covert methods while the repubs will send the police to outright murder people in the streets and celebrate it. All the issues you listed are true, and that is why fighting is not optional.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    Lol, now we all know you've never been to a protest.

    Every time I've ever been tear gassed for protesting, it was a Democrat who gave the orders.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

    Then go protest more, I assure you they both use tear gas.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    That whooshing sound you heard was the entire point going directly over your head.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Right back at yeah pal. Tear gas tastes better than a bullet

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Goddamn you're dumb

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  • [–] -3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Truly a titillating response

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    You have to display some reading comprehension and intelligence to get replies that are entertaining or enlightening. When all you do is shill for the status quo and deliberately misunderstand very simple concepts so you can set up cheap comebacks, you have to expect just low effort derision, because that's all you're showing yourself to be worth.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    A dem will opt for more covert methods while the repubs will send the police to outright murder people in the streets and celebrate it.

    Again an assertion that doesn't like up with reality. ICE (the modern Gestapo as many people know them) were no less funded or utilised under dems for example same with the police. They also oversaw and funded genocide. You are falling for the optics and believe just because they say the good things they must not be doing as many of the bad things and it's just not accurate.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Again, I never said the dems don't utilize the same forces. The critique is in how and to what degree. Surely there are plenty of libs for you to debate that you don't need to invent a strawman lib.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    See now you're backtracking. So they don't use more covert methods? They use the exact same methods and institutions just "less" (in your mind). But again this is an assertion without merit when you look at how funding for ICE and the militarisation of the police hit record levels under both administrations. So again we're back to you taking pr and a better controlled news cycle to be a tangible material difference that it simply isn't.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    Where is the contradiction in saying the same institution can be directed to use or favor different methods?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The fact that they plainly aren't? The police were still the police under Dems the same violent gangs brutalising whoever they liked and facing minimal (in reality effectively 0) repercussions. And ice was still ice Dems were more then happy to gloat about record deportations under their administrations, you think ice was suddenly politely asking people if they would like to leave under Dems, obviously not they were the same violent kidnappers putting kids in cages.

    This is all not even mentioning the three letter agencies and their bipartisan escapades. (Abu gharib was not an abomination but the system working as intended)

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I will just say my lived experience is they do in fact favor different methods. From my own daycare provider having a deportation clause to being on ICE watch to my brother in law being deported, the difference is stark.

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