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0w0 we can't get violent, we have to use the tools that capitalism provides us to fight them! It'll totally work! We just have to voteee!!! - liberals (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

A dem will opt for more covert methods while the repubs will send the police to outright murder people in the streets and celebrate it.

Again an assertion that doesn't like up with reality. ICE (the modern Gestapo as many people know them) were no less funded or utilised under dems for example same with the police. They also oversaw and funded genocide. You are falling for the optics and believe just because they say the good things they must not be doing as many of the bad things and it's just not accurate.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Again, I never said the dems don't utilize the same forces. The critique is in how and to what degree. Surely there are plenty of libs for you to debate that you don't need to invent a strawman lib.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    See now you're backtracking. So they don't use more covert methods? They use the exact same methods and institutions just "less" (in your mind). But again this is an assertion without merit when you look at how funding for ICE and the militarisation of the police hit record levels under both administrations. So again we're back to you taking pr and a better controlled news cycle to be a tangible material difference that it simply isn't.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    Where is the contradiction in saying the same institution can be directed to use or favor different methods?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The fact that they plainly aren't? The police were still the police under Dems the same violent gangs brutalising whoever they liked and facing minimal (in reality effectively 0) repercussions. And ice was still ice Dems were more then happy to gloat about record deportations under their administrations, you think ice was suddenly politely asking people if they would like to leave under Dems, obviously not they were the same violent kidnappers putting kids in cages.

    This is all not even mentioning the three letter agencies and their bipartisan escapades. (Abu gharib was not an abomination but the system working as intended)

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I will just say my lived experience is they do in fact favor different methods. From my own daycare provider having a deportation clause to being on ICE watch to my brother in law being deported, the difference is stark.

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