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Court Finds That Using Copyrighted Material as AI Training Data Is Not Fair Use: Could this be the moment copyright holders have been waiting for? (futurism.com)
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[–] 92 points 18 hours ago (16 children)

I think this should be the reasoning politicians use to make AI companies owned by the public.

These AI models are nothing without all the data they were trained on. All this data is content produced by humans throughout history. AI is the ultimate product of thousands of years of human progress. Why should we allow corporations to be the primary beneficiaries of this?

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  • [–] 23 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

    AI companies are burning money pits... don't make me the tax payer the patsy who pays off the unimaginable debts of AI companies.

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  • [–] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    Given the size of this bubble (WAY bigger than 2007), the taxpayers are going to hold the bag. We might as well force the companies to share the benefits (if any) as well.

    Currently, there are no profits, tho.

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  • [–] 3 points 12 hours ago

    Either the entire tech industry, and any business that relies on the tech industry (read: most businesses) explode and take modern human society with it... or every human the world over contributes in some part toward letting them continue their death march towards human extinction. What a choice.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    but think of the CEOs for a minute, they still gotta run the AI, whether through predatory government contracts or predatory private business

    how are they gunna afford their 4th house they visit one week a year?

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  • [–] 31 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Agreed... the problem is that the damage is already done and there's no way to really make it right to the copyright holders so mandating that all AI models and their weights should be treated as public domain would at least help a bit.

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  • [–] 15 points 17 hours ago

    It actively prevents companies like Disney from using AI generation tools to stamp out movies like assembly line products. They can't afford to have their movies become public domain at release.

    It won't protect jobs in advertising, because a lot of companies won't care if their ads become public domain. This might be a problem because a lot of actors get their start in ad bits, and a lot of graphic artists make a living on ad images.

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  • [–] 7 points 17 hours ago

    Ii think it's an issue so long as private companies are profiting off the works of other people. If this is public (like a utility of some sort), I'm not sure the copyright claim means as much. I'm sure it would need to be handled in a way still.

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  • [–] 8 points 15 hours ago

    The AI isn’t very useful, that’s a problem. The government will make them public, then the public will own their huge dept. the oligarchs will receive golden parachutes in the form of a buyout and we will get stuck with the bill. Fuck that, make the technofeudalists liquidate at reasonable prices. Give people their homes back. Make them pay to supply clean water everywhere an open-loop DC was constructed. Jail them for terrorism after polluting our skies and attempting to corner the market on information in order to control the populace.

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  • [–] 3 points 15 hours ago

    Don't you mean "could be the reasoning"? AI companies aren't profitable, they would want to be "publicly owned" so that everyone else will be holding their bags. They're already trying to hedge it into everyone's retirement funds etc. It would not be in our best interests to be even more exposed to this.

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  • [–] 2 points 15 hours ago* (1 child)

    Best case scenario but that's not the one we will be getting.

    Copyright juggernauts and data brokers, the ones that actually own all the data like Reddit and universal records, will get paid.

    Open weight models won't be allowed in business contexts or to be served online, OpenAI and company get a fat monopoly which suits them.

    People are cheering for their own doom. The handful of big AI company are going to end up owning a solid chunk of the economy. It's basically going to be an AI tax.

    You will be replaced by an agent, OpenAI will only sell them to your employer in bulk at a stupid price so you can't turn around and compete. That bulk price per agent will still be cheaper than your monthly wage.

    Find me one politician that even mentioned forcing these models public. It's a fantasy.

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  • [–] 3 points 14 hours ago

    The current copyright system is a artifact of US-dominated systems the world is rapidly disassociating itself from.

    The worst case scenario is American companies are able to lock down the United States, but the rest of the world will ignore it.

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  • [–] 2 points 15 hours ago

    Do you mean compelling them to operate on a completely open source basis?

    If you mean as in government owned/controlled, considering the primary thieves are US corporations, that would be the equivalent of the american government laundering stolen goods and compounding the theft from the rest of the world.

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