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[–] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

AI is like starting from the cake and working back to confirm the eggs, the milk, and the flour.

that analogy does not make any sense.

i guess it depends a lot on how you use it. you can ask it for an opinion, or you can ask it for facts. and facts can be links for primary sources. so as any tool, it can be used well and it can be used bad. maybe you are just too focused on one way that you see as bad, without even knowing whether that is the way these people chose.

i am all for people trying to do the research before making a vote. and if the alternative would be watching fox news, i don't really see how it can get worse.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (1 child)

    AI is like starting from the cake and working back to confirm the eggs, the milk, and the flour.

    that analogy does not make any sense.

    I mentioned information acquisition and thinking are typically not separate processes, but if we act as if they are hypothetically: The cake is the final synthesis of your various information combined with the thought to understand them. LLMs give you output that may look like cake - it follows grammar, structure, and mimics thought. The output is also always a statistically correlative combination of various sources in petabytes of training data - Wikipedia, some random Reddit comment, a conspiracy website, a doctor's blog.

    When you get that LLM's "cake," you can decide to eat it, and also decide if it tastes right. You can pick it apart and look at the structure a bit. But it takes a lot of effort to confirm what went into it after it's baked. You may be able to taste when it's made with rat poison, but some poisons taste like food. Was it made with sugar syrup or ethylene glycol? An LLM is just looking at probabilities and associations, and is limited by training data which you (and even the LLM company) cannot typically even reliably trace - those citations it gives you often do not even contain the propositions they're cited for.

    Starting from reliable sources in the beginning is akin to starting with sugar, flour, milk. You've verified them, and now you know the cake is cake.

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    The output is also always a statistically correlative combination of various sources in petabytes

    so is first page of google search.

    again. you gather information (with whatever tool you prefer) and then you verify them (with whatever tool you prefer). if you go through both steps thoroughly, it really doesn't matter much what is your preferred tool.

    and again - if the alternative to this would be just watching fox news, then any attempt to gather some independent information is progress. baby steps.

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