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‘Goodbye Whoniverse. God, that was fun!’: Russell T Davies on writing the end of Doctor Who (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 5 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

I agree completely, and I think too many online spaces make room for cynicism not realizing that it contributes nothing, and ruins the experience/eventually pushes out of anyone who isn't cynical.

When I was a mod on /r/StarTrek we had a rule (it's also thankfully a rule here) "be constructive" which was basically "Criticism is OK but cynicism is not. If you want to present 'criticism' you need to behave like a real critic and cite examples, not just rant". And let me tell you that rule really upset a lot of folks who felt that had a right to pee in the communal pool.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I gave up on r/gallifrey during the Chibnall years...

    Liking the show and just enjoying the general "vibe" it was going for was taboo, posting theories was pointless because you just got cynicism in response.

    Something about Series 11 just really broke a lot of people's brains and they never recovered... Don't get me wrong, it's not the best thing ever made, but Good God people, RELAX!

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  • [–] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    I find the general rule with Doctor Who fans is:

    • The most recent showrunner is the worst and has ruined the show forever.

    • The previous showrunner had their problems but they're underrated.

    • The showrunner before that was the greatest and they should come back.

    • Whatever version of the show was current when you were a kid was the golden age.

    So for example:

    • RTD1 era: RTD is ruining the show! It's nothing like 80's Doctor Who which was the real show.

    • Moffat era: Moffat is ruining it! RTD had his problems but he could write good dialogue!

    • Chibnall era: What the fuck is Chibnall doing?! Moffat went off a bit at the end but season 5 was great. RTD was the best though, that was the Golden Age. I wish he'd come back!

    • RTD2 era: RTD has lost it and ruined the show! I know Chibnall wrote some nonsense but I liked the Flux. The best episodes of this era were the Moffat ones, I wish he'd come back!

    ...and so on. So I expect when the new version comes back in a few years people online will hate it, start to "yes, but" the RTD2 era and pine for the Chibnall years lol.

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  • [–] 3 points 17 hours ago

    That is pretty accurate, yes 😂 A big part of it I think is fans watching new episodes as they air, and going mad with waiting a week for the next one. The hyperfocus on picking over details of the week's story and speculating on what will happen next creates a weird and often (mostly) overly harsh criticism. Especially when discussed online...

    And that's when previously hated runs are suddenly viewed through rosier glasses. Seems it's only now that the fandom can embrace Whittaker's Doctor (i.e., not spit bile on others for expressing moderate appreciation). Because apparently Chibnall did still ruin the show, but RTD really, really ruined it?

    Also, don't forget the subset of fans who only really liked Tennant's run and the Rose romance arc, and will continue to comment like those three seasons are all that really count out of a >60yrs show 🙂

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