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[–] 35 points 21 hours ago (16 children)

I assure you, if you are a brokie like the rest of us, you will not have the money to spare in the ensuing recession. Honestly I expect personal computing is dead, likely for a decade or more, if it ever comes back.

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  • [–] 30 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 child)

    From one brokie to another, drowning in debt is indistinguishable from drowning in debt with a GPU and SSD.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 hours ago

    Last night, my friends and I were talking about how we're trying to spend more time at home to save money. Instead of going out to a bar, we're starting to plan more hangouts at home. Why spend $2k/month on rent if we aren't going to be there? It feels like anytime I leave the house, I'm spending $100 or more. We all were at a bar last weekend watching college football, and after spending $10/drink, we dipped out, bought $50 in beer and pizza, and played Mario Kart at a friend's house. Much cheaper to just play games at home and hangout.

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  • [–] 7 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

    Yeah, there is also speculation that part of this build out is intended to force a shortage to get everyone to shift to thin client "cloud PCs" where everyone can be monitored and ad blockers can be avoided.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 hours ago

    yes that's exactly the plan and the reason these companies are paying profound premiums back to nVidia. If they don't pay up nVidia will just announce another spark roll out and scare the crap out of them. They know as soon as newer computer hits the consumer market they are dead in the water.

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  • [–] -3 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

    That shift has already happened.

    People on this forum trend to use personal computers but most people now only use phones. They might have a laptop provided by work but many don't own one at all.

    The push to "the cloud" happened ten years ago. The people around here are the exception.

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  • [–] 4 points 16 hours ago (5 children)
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    For most people it is. If you removed Internet access from the device what do you think people would say?

    9 out of 10 apps are just web apps with a launcher and stop working the moment you disable data.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    And how is that any different than a desktop tower?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    I can run LLMs locally on my desktop tower. I can run CAD Software and create things. There is a large number of tasks my desktop can do that a phone can't for a number of reasons not the least that using a phone without their app stores is becoming increasing difficult.

    Just because you might just use yours as a thin client for Chrome doesn't make me wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 child)

    There is nothing preventing you from running local apps on a phone, including local Ai or CAD, it's just not necessarily practical or cost efficient to do so, nor is the software there the same way as say AutoCAD.

    Nice try with the ad hominem attack, but I use my phone for a lot of different local apps, including gaming, photo editing, office suite, local music that I have purchased and collect instead of streaming primarily. Android even supports desktop mode so the workflow is very similar, and a phone is a good solution if you can afford but one device. I still have a desktop, but hating on phones for being cloud hosted makes no sense... because they're not.

    You may personally dislike app stores, and I don't really disagree, but it is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

    You ARE wrong, not because the population at large does or does not use a lot of web hosted apps. That's irrelevant. Obviously, the internet is popular for a reason, and you are not inherently superior because you run more local apps then the ever-elusive "them".

    You are wrong because phones are fundamentally not cloud based. They are not thin clients, they do not remote in to a virtual desktop on someone else's computer to do every task. Phone OSs run on bare metal. End of story.

    You could say "electron/web apps sucks" or "we need to use more than 5 centralized websites that are all owned by billionaires and sell your data" and everyone here will agree with you. There is no need to make up problems that don't exist just you you can say "you thought THAT was bad?"

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  • [–] 14 points 21 hours ago

    With the amount of integration it achieved to facilitate services and transactions? I am very skeptical of that. I expect to happen a serious market feagmentation and a great number of bankrupties but the void will be filled by new presences.

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  • [–] 8 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

    It wont be like dead dead, but just stagnant. Companies like nvidia will just sell the barely passable hardware with even less reason to upgrade because the prices will rise and the performance jumps will decrease. The good thing is that even the entry level hardware was already good enough for 95% of use cases and what justified upgrades anyway was mostly AAA gaming graphics slop or heavy 3d renders for professionals.

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  • [–] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 child)

    and they already bought years worth of chips, so no computing for a long time.

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