Hi everyone, I'm scrodumb and I am a retail butcher and sausage maker in Toronto, Canada.

My culinary experience extends far beyond that but these days my specific interests are mostly meat and meat processing. Starting to get into charcuterie and expanding my sausage repertoire into fermented, cured, smoked and emulsified products. Will be making my first coppa and pancetta this coming week. Have some Cantonese style lap cheong drying too.

I'm happy to help with any meat related questions or troubleshooting, feel free to ask here or message me directly. Love bouncing ideas back and forth especially with other foodheads.

A couple weeks ago I ordered a half hog of Meishan pork for myself and made a bunch of sausages for my friends and family. The pic is my personal versions of Barese sausage (coiled) and Chipolatas (breakfast sized links). Both are super popular and I'm happy to share the formulations if anyone is interested. I have dozens more sausage formulations too, just ask. I can turn nearly any red sauce pizza recipe into a sausage. Hawaiian absolutely SLAPS. Other dishes too. I created a Cubano sausage that tastes just like the sandwich.

I'll try to post every week or two but seriously if you have any meat related queries hit me up I'm always happy to help. Next post will likely be some tips and tricks I've learned and discovered in my journey.

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[–] [S] 3 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

There are mini-fridge sized curing chambers for home use. You can buy cellulose aging wraps, which is what I'm using at first, and nowadays there are permeable vac bags designed for dry aging as well. Haven't heard much good about those though, very difficult to establish and maintain a proper seal. The sheet wraps came recommended. I don't know enough about ideal temperatures and humidity just yet, I'm only beginning this foray myself, but a stable environment, cool, low humidity and decent airflow makes sense to me. Humidity being the most important factor. Then, as long as you use the correct type and amount of cure salt it should be a matter of patience. Like a less than ideal environment will still work but may take a bit longer.

Fresh sausage from a supermarket meat counter (where I live) is probably fairly close to what I make. However they'll probably use some fillers and excess water to save money. The pre-cooked or frozen stuff you'd buy away from the meat counter is more likely to be loaded with additives. As for sawdust, well that's a butchery term for the emulsion of meat, fat and bone that collects in our bandsaw. It's not wood mill sawdust, we just call it that. If it's collected while still fresh there is nothing nutritionally bad about it. I use it in dog treats all the time. I WOULD NEVER FEED IT TO A HUMAN as I pride myself on producing too quality fare but it's not the end of the world some cultures add it to their sausage farce (looking at you Australia). As long as they're open and honest it's going in there, and using it safely, I see no issue. My shop generates less than one pound of it per day at peak so it's not exactly going to make us millionaires.

My only gripe with grocery store sausage is they're all the same tired and played out recipes. I pride myself on producing recipes and versions of products nobody else is making. You want a Hawaiian Pizza Sausage? You have to buy it from us. My Chipolatas recipes brings the sausage full circle back to its ancient Roman roots via the caramelized onions. I chose to do that when nobody else was. It elevates mine above the generic, corporate approved safe bet.

I have never sous vided a steak in my life. Nothing against it just not my style. I'm a cast iron pan sear guy. Love the crust texture.

As for sausages yes you can absolutely sous vide. You'll want to use cure salt as the cook will hold the meat in the danger zone for some time. Using cure salt and sodium erythorbate will give your par cooked sausages a long shelf life in the fridge. Many people hosting or catering cookouts will par cook sausages in advance like this so they can be quickly seared and served at the event. Quite popular preparation. After sous vide give them a couple minutes ice bath then rest at room temp for 30 minutes before packing and refrigerating.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    Thanks for the ton of detail!

    I did not know about the sawdust terminology.

    Did you mean "add it to their sausage fare"?

    And can you let me know how Australia adds in sawdust? Like is it a lot more than other countries permit?

    I'm in Australia, and butcher bought snags here are considerably better than supermarket BBQ sausages.

    Par-cooking for big BBQs is a great tip, I've been thinking about this kind of prep, since the start of the year. Will give it a go.

    The Roman style chipolata sounds delicious, caramelised onion is a best-friend of sausages.

    Congratulations on making your own Lap Cheong too. First time I've heard about someone making it themselves.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    Farce is rooted in a Latin word meaning "stuffing". It's what we call the prepared meat filling we intend to pipe into the casing.

    Fun fact the word botulism is from the Latin word for sausage. They discovered botulism when a batch of sausage was spoiled so it is forever known as the sausage bacteria despite it being present all over the place.

    I have no idea about specific practices, standards or regulations in Australia, only anecdotally from a friend who's from there. He's a few decades my senior and has been in Canada for even longer so take it with a grain of salt. I imagine quality will vary shop to shop just like everywhere else. Like I said most retail shops won't generate nearly enough for it to make sense using, if anyone is doing it it's the mass processors who actually generate tons of sawdust.

    Lap cheong is a lot of work. The ramen dish I make with it will be worthwhile. I'm using bone broth from the same hog.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    The supermarket BBQ sausages have tiny 1mm bone shards, so I think they regularly combine the sawdust back in.

    " take it with a grain of salt ". No pun intended.

    Thanks for sharing your expertise (c:

    Plus a full etymology lesson, added in!

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