tl;dr: Proxmox or bare metal? Containers yes/no? What is your use case?

I used a Dell R710 when I first started self-hosting, it ran ESXi with one VM for each service I wanted. Restarting the server required me to first shutdown each VM in order and then the whole host. When setting up a new service to host I had to create a new VM (allocate RAM, disk etc), install the OS (I ran Debian) and then follow instructions for how to setup the service. This mostly was not a problem but one software I never managed to get working was Apache Guacamole.

Nowadays I have a Dell Optiplex I salvaged for parts, got a new case and all my HDDs from my R710. Because it has much less RAM and an old Intel i5 (6th or 7th generation), I decided to get into Docker. With Docker containers you write your compose file and it will just work. No more need to dig through documentation for which version of a dependency to use, how to handle if two services on the same host need different versions (this was part of the reason for one VM/service). With Docker, I can try out a software in seconds and have it configured to my liking in minutes.

Today I have NixOS (bare metal) and it comes with Podman which uses systemd. Hence restarting my OS (albeit not that often, almost never unless I mess up my config) is a no-brainer because Podman via systemd will manage everything. Adding, stopping or removing containers in general is easy. I have a script running as a service which will stop a container, create a BTRFS subvolume snapshot, start the service again and start borg backup to backup from the snapshot.

For me using Proxmox would just an extra layer of complexity I don't need. I only have one server and I am the only user.

Questions:

  • Do you use Proxmox instead of a bare metal installation?
  • Do you use containers or do you install manually?
  • What is you use case that requires your setup the way it is?
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[–] 5 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm running Docker inside a Debian VM on Proxmox and I forgot why. Next time I'd just run Docker on Debian.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago* (3 children)

    I started with docker desktop on windows for a year. Got tired of resources redlining because windows is greedy. Tried proxmox and just couldn't get past the setup (don't remember which part). Anyway, running headless Debian with docker is working really well for about 2 months now. Between cockpit and my codeserver container I can get most anything done through gui. I even installed comai llm on my mint desktop machine to help me with commands.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Sounds great. I can recommend Dockhand for monitoring and managing Docker containers.

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