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[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 21 points 6 days ago (18 children) Linux PC is the only option left permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk -2 points 6 days ago (17 children) You don't own your games on Steam either. Realistically we need laws changing to catch up. Nobody, not even good old uncle Gabe, are going to give us the same rights we had with physical games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago Support for Linux isn't support for Steam. permalink fedilink source parent [–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (4 children) Most games on steam arent DRM, so nothing stops you from backing up all your games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago Also for ones that use Steam DRM it can be simulated. It's a stretch to call it hard DRM and I wish more people would mention this aspect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago* (2 children) Not having tens of thousands to spend on storage is a bit of a blocker in my case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 child) Just get a used LTO6 tape drive. You can get 6TB (compressed) cartridges for like $15 each on ebay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago I will look into this, thank you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 days ago (7 children) I own my GOG games though. Factorio, which I got straight from WUBE, I also own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) You own them the same way you own Steam Games without DRM. If you keep a backup of them you'll always have them but if the store goes away or terminates the files you won't be able to re-download it from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 point 6 days ago So the same as physical games then, if you lose your copy its gone. But its much easier to backup and have multiple. You really aren’t selling physical media with DRM to me, and they always seem to have DRM. I could make 20 copies on bluray if I wanted to with my games, much harder with your physical ones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago (2 children) I understand there are different levels to the word "own". Own them as in "I can play them even if that store is unavailable in the future" is one level. Own them as in "I can trade/give them to others when I don't want them any more" is another. One is not better than the other, and they're not mutually exclusive. But physical gives you both of them. Digital doesn't. Or not yet at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Digital is better then surely? I can give it to you and still have my original. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago Ah, the good old days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You don't own games on gog, you just have a offline DRM free installer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago* If you want to go down the technicality of owning that much the same applies to physical media for games. I could copy my installer to a DVD and at that point it doesn't really make a difference, oh look its physical now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 days ago (2 children) Steam is still driving a lot of support for Proton and other open-source development for gaming on Linux, which is why they're still worth supporting. And if (maybe when) they enshittify, then it is far easier to sail the high seas on any Linux gaming rig than it is on any console. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 child) You also don't need to buy a game on Steam to benefit from Steam's Proton. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago True, but I do anyway because they consistently create the nicest gaming experience and have a plethora of nice features like their super user-friendly controller customization system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk -2 points 6 days ago (17 children) You don't own your games on Steam either. Realistically we need laws changing to catch up. Nobody, not even good old uncle Gabe, are going to give us the same rights we had with physical games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago Support for Linux isn't support for Steam. permalink fedilink source parent [–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (4 children) Most games on steam arent DRM, so nothing stops you from backing up all your games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago Also for ones that use Steam DRM it can be simulated. It's a stretch to call it hard DRM and I wish more people would mention this aspect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago* (2 children) Not having tens of thousands to spend on storage is a bit of a blocker in my case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 child) Just get a used LTO6 tape drive. You can get 6TB (compressed) cartridges for like $15 each on ebay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago I will look into this, thank you! permalink fedilink source parent [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 days ago (7 children) I own my GOG games though. Factorio, which I got straight from WUBE, I also own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) You own them the same way you own Steam Games without DRM. If you keep a backup of them you'll always have them but if the store goes away or terminates the files you won't be able to re-download it from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 point 6 days ago So the same as physical games then, if you lose your copy its gone. But its much easier to backup and have multiple. You really aren’t selling physical media with DRM to me, and they always seem to have DRM. I could make 20 copies on bluray if I wanted to with my games, much harder with your physical ones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago (2 children) I understand there are different levels to the word "own". Own them as in "I can play them even if that store is unavailable in the future" is one level. Own them as in "I can trade/give them to others when I don't want them any more" is another. One is not better than the other, and they're not mutually exclusive. But physical gives you both of them. Digital doesn't. Or not yet at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Digital is better then surely? I can give it to you and still have my original. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago Ah, the good old days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You don't own games on gog, you just have a offline DRM free installer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago* If you want to go down the technicality of owning that much the same applies to physical media for games. I could copy my installer to a DVD and at that point it doesn't really make a difference, oh look its physical now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 days ago (2 children) Steam is still driving a lot of support for Proton and other open-source development for gaming on Linux, which is why they're still worth supporting. And if (maybe when) they enshittify, then it is far easier to sail the high seas on any Linux gaming rig than it is on any console. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 child) You also don't need to buy a game on Steam to benefit from Steam's Proton. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago True, but I do anyway because they consistently create the nicest gaming experience and have a plethora of nice features like their super user-friendly controller customization system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago Support for Linux isn't support for Steam. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (4 children) Most games on steam arent DRM, so nothing stops you from backing up all your games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago Also for ones that use Steam DRM it can be simulated. It's a stretch to call it hard DRM and I wish more people would mention this aspect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago* (2 children) Not having tens of thousands to spend on storage is a bit of a blocker in my case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 child) Just get a used LTO6 tape drive. You can get 6TB (compressed) cartridges for like $15 each on ebay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago I will look into this, thank you! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago Also for ones that use Steam DRM it can be simulated. It's a stretch to call it hard DRM and I wish more people would mention this aspect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago* (2 children) Not having tens of thousands to spend on storage is a bit of a blocker in my case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 child) Just get a used LTO6 tape drive. You can get 6TB (compressed) cartridges for like $15 each on ebay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago I will look into this, thank you! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 child) Just get a used LTO6 tape drive. You can get 6TB (compressed) cartridges for like $15 each on ebay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago I will look into this, thank you! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago I will look into this, thank you! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 days ago (7 children) I own my GOG games though. Factorio, which I got straight from WUBE, I also own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) You own them the same way you own Steam Games without DRM. If you keep a backup of them you'll always have them but if the store goes away or terminates the files you won't be able to re-download it from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 point 6 days ago So the same as physical games then, if you lose your copy its gone. But its much easier to backup and have multiple. You really aren’t selling physical media with DRM to me, and they always seem to have DRM. I could make 20 copies on bluray if I wanted to with my games, much harder with your physical ones. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago (2 children) I understand there are different levels to the word "own". Own them as in "I can play them even if that store is unavailable in the future" is one level. Own them as in "I can trade/give them to others when I don't want them any more" is another. One is not better than the other, and they're not mutually exclusive. But physical gives you both of them. Digital doesn't. Or not yet at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Digital is better then surely? I can give it to you and still have my original. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago Ah, the good old days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You don't own games on gog, you just have a offline DRM free installer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago* If you want to go down the technicality of owning that much the same applies to physical media for games. I could copy my installer to a DVD and at that point it doesn't really make a difference, oh look its physical now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 child) You own them the same way you own Steam Games without DRM. If you keep a backup of them you'll always have them but if the store goes away or terminates the files you won't be able to re-download it from them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 point 6 days ago So the same as physical games then, if you lose your copy its gone. But its much easier to backup and have multiple. You really aren’t selling physical media with DRM to me, and they always seem to have DRM. I could make 20 copies on bluray if I wanted to with my games, much harder with your physical ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 point 6 days ago So the same as physical games then, if you lose your copy its gone. But its much easier to backup and have multiple. You really aren’t selling physical media with DRM to me, and they always seem to have DRM. I could make 20 copies on bluray if I wanted to with my games, much harder with your physical ones. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago (2 children) I understand there are different levels to the word "own". Own them as in "I can play them even if that store is unavailable in the future" is one level. Own them as in "I can trade/give them to others when I don't want them any more" is another. One is not better than the other, and they're not mutually exclusive. But physical gives you both of them. Digital doesn't. Or not yet at least. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Digital is better then surely? I can give it to you and still have my original. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago Ah, the good old days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Digital is better then surely? I can give it to you and still have my original. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago Ah, the good old days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) You don't own games on gog, you just have a offline DRM free installer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago* If you want to go down the technicality of owning that much the same applies to physical media for games. I could copy my installer to a DVD and at that point it doesn't really make a difference, oh look its physical now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago* If you want to go down the technicality of owning that much the same applies to physical media for games. I could copy my installer to a DVD and at that point it doesn't really make a difference, oh look its physical now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 days ago (2 children) Steam is still driving a lot of support for Proton and other open-source development for gaming on Linux, which is why they're still worth supporting. And if (maybe when) they enshittify, then it is far easier to sail the high seas on any Linux gaming rig than it is on any console. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 child) You also don't need to buy a game on Steam to benefit from Steam's Proton. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago True, but I do anyway because they consistently create the nicest gaming experience and have a plethora of nice features like their super user-friendly controller customization system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 child) You also don't need to buy a game on Steam to benefit from Steam's Proton. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago True, but I do anyway because they consistently create the nicest gaming experience and have a plethora of nice features like their super user-friendly controller customization system. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago True, but I do anyway because they consistently create the nicest gaming experience and have a plethora of nice features like their super user-friendly controller customization system. permalink fedilink source parent
