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How it's gonna go (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 5 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Although actual self driving cars are already better drivers than humans, although the bar is so low that Satan would have to dig for it.

Note, Teslas are not self driving. They're mislabeled lane assist.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Where did you get that information from?

    NHTSA reports human drivers to 1.9 incidents per million miles, and self driving cars companies refuse to give the mileage data. They are forced to give incidents rate data, and we can somehow estimate their milage and then we arrive at over 12 incidents per million miles for self driving levels 3-5.

    Oh in 2025 NHTSA changed reporting requirements, to more relaxed, with less supervision and oversight, and no pushback or controls, laid off 25% of workers and changed it's director to Morrison who was at the time Apple Self Driving Car Chief Council.

    And even now it's almost twice the rate of human driver per million miles.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago*

    Note, Teslas are not self driving. They're mislabeled lane assist.

    What definition of “lane assist” includes the ability to manage city driving while following a gps route with turns and stoplights?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (4 children)

    Better drivers than the average human driver. Take male drivers out of the equation and it tips. Women drivers may be less secure at times (compared to male overconfidence) but they are far less likely to be reckless or cause lethal accidents.

    Signed: a male :p

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    No, it still doesn't tip.

    A computer can't get intoxicated, tired, or distracted. Humans can't monitor dozens of sensors millions of times a second.

    There are definitely still steps that need to be made to advance the technology, but it already has us beat. And it's great. Traffic related deaths are a huge issue.

    What's not great is who owns the cars.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Human drivers: people die due to reckless driving and human mistakes - and in most situations a good driver can anticipate a lot of dangers and avoid them. ML "assistants" getting control over cars: people die of unpredictable mis-assessments of inputs vs. outputs, and there's no way to anticipate any danger or try to avoid it.

    People who advocate for non-deterministic systems taking control in cars are irresponsible and have blood on their hands.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    Your description of a human driver is no different than a self driving vehicle.

    An input/output error is the equivalent to a human mistake. And those happen far less often than a human mistake. People make unpredictable stupid mistakes driving all the time.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago

    If you think people make unpredictable mistakes all the time, you shouldn't be driving a motorized vehicle. Because you clearly do not know what to anticipate. Do unpredictable mistakes happen? Sure thing. But they are the rare exception, and almost all the time an aware driver will be cautious about situations so as not to get caught unaware.

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