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What's the motivation behind vibe-hobbying? (feddit.org)

submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by Luccus@feddit.org to c/localllama@sh.itjust.works

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I'm unsure, if this is the right community for this, but I'm really curious about agenic vibe coding for hobby projects. As in: I have trouble gasping the reasoning behind it, especially given it's current prevalence.

I really like programming to the point of creating a lot of what I'd label "art for noone". I'm also tangentially interested in ML ever since reading the DeepDream papers.

But, the whole "agentic" hobby stuff feels weird to me. I just don't get why anyone would give their hobby project over to a machine. I get that people use is for work. I even understand how someone may want to sell slop for a quick buck, even if I hate that idea.

But your personal hobby game project? Why would I have a computer do my hobby for me?

Even not minding the ethical questions. I genuienly don't get it. And worse, I feel like a lot of people vibe coding their hobby away, are not even interested in the technology, outside of getting it do their hobby.

I know this comes over a bit critiquey, perhaps because it is a little. But mostly I'm dumb founded. Thanks for any insights. Please don't meat-proxy.

Edit: Just want to mention, I read and appreciate all comments. I just find my own replies sound too harsh, and I don't want to discourage anyone from weighing in. Thank you!

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 5 days ago

I think your view of what a "hobby" is might be a bit too high-level or generic.

For example, I play tabletop RPGs with my friends, it's my hobby. I use AI extensively in the course of that, either as GM or as player, but it isn't doing the hobby for me. It's automating the stuff that would be drudgery or overly expensive. Previously if I wanted a customized image that illustrated a particular scenario or monster I would laboriously piece it together with the Gimp and get a mediocre result. I enjoyed having the end result to show to players, but I didn't enjoy the process. AI now automates that process so I get the good without the bad.

If I was an artist who enjoyed the process of making art, then obviously I wouldn't be using AI for that. But I might use AI to discuss ideas or layout or generate a bunch of mockups, if that was a part of the process that I found tedious. Every hobby has some labor-saving steps that people like to use to skip over the parts they don't like doing. Few artsts mix their own pigments or stretch their own canvases, they go to a hobby store and buy machine-made materials instead.

So, too, in the case of vibe coding. I'm a professional programmer, I'm good at programming, but that doesn't mean I like every aspect of it. Or even most aspects of it! There's a ton of tedium. Why not automate the parts I don't like?

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