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Compsci grads facing recession-like job prospects thanks to AI - Slinging coffee and waiting tables ain't just for liberal arts grads any more, say Census Bureau economists (www.theregister.com)
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"AI isn't capable of taking any jobs away."

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[–] 31 points 5 days ago (28 children)

Yeah I'm a CS dropout and worked for startups for 10 years and now nobody is biting. Starting to think I need a career change because I can't see things improving any time soon now that AI is out of the bag.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 days ago* (2 children)

    I graduated in 2022 with an MSc ComSci and have been without a job since new year. I think my ghost rate on applications have been around 60-70%. And let's not even talk about how few job posts there are in the first place...

    The few I do hear from replies "what an amazing resume! We have though decided to continue with other applicants." Number of first interviews: 1. Number of second interviews: 0. Number of applications: I lost count.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Yeah, all the tech jobs dried up where I'm at. If one pops up it is a help desk position.

    When I applied to one those help desk position the hr person asked me why are you applying to a job underneath you?

    I have 10 years working as a Software Engineer that did mostly ETL tasks

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (5 children)

    Honestly, its just a boom/bust cycle out of the pandemic. They overhired in 2021/2022. Hang in there, it'll sort itself out.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    this actually outside of that, AI just put a wrench in the works, i dont think cs had a good outlook since 10 years already.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Honestly, you are right it didn't. CS majors get way less work than Software Engineers where I live. CS is mostly academic and not practical. Maybe different elsewhere, but not a golden ticket. I don't like working with compsci grads because they don't know how to make stuff. They don't know best practices or how to make reusable code and features. Software engineers on the other hand, actually useful contributors.

    Nevertheless, Software engineering, just like other engineering fields, way way way over saturated. Mechanical and electrical engineers in places like Toronto are just working Starbucks. You gotta be top of class or there's nothing for you.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 days ago (15 children)

    You really need to move into leadership or project management roles or do something to distinguish yourself like also studying applied math so that you can do data science. There have, for a very long time, been far too many CompSci/ComEng graduates out there. The market is saturated.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 days ago (8 children)

    If I was willing to do that then I would have done so years ago, the calculus hasn't really changed. If I'm going to do that then I might as well do literally anything else I don't enjoy.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 days ago (7 children)

    So business as usual and no changes?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    Not sure where I said no changes, I literally said in my first comment that I'm looking at other careers. Just because I don't like your suggestion doesn't mean I'm doing "business as usual".

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  • [–] -1 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    If I was willing to do that then I would have done so years ago

    This is what I was responding to. It came across as very defeatist.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    Lol so you think it's defeatist to have a hard no for 1 specific position? There are so many other things to do in life than be a manager. If you think saying hard no to 1 position is equivalent to rejecting any change in strategy then idk what to tell you. You're the one coming across as condescending by trying to mischaracterize my preference against being a manager as saying I won't try anything different, and that's kinda lame.

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  • [+] -6 points 5 days ago* (3 children)

    Yeah man. You come across as a bit unstable. You came in on the attack when my original comment was not directed at you specifically. Whatever is going on here is really a you thing. You might spend some time figuring out why. Chill.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago* (2 children)

    Yeah umm I'm not the one who's very transparently looking for an excuse to scold others on what they're doing wrong. You made that pretty clear when you rushed to aggressively and condescendingly assume that I was unwilling to do anything different. Anyone who reads your comment can see that you were so eager to talk down to someone about what they're doing wrong that you completely ignored the fact that I clearly stated I was exploring basically any other career. Then when it became obvious that you had made an incorrect assumption, you rushed to switch your narrative to being about the "vibes" of my comment being defeatist - something you're entirely making up in your own interpretation.

    Own up to it dude. It's embarrassing.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago* (1 child)

    Yeah we’re done, not reading your screed.

    I am an IT director and tried to share my knowledge and experience. You’ve got heavy angry tankie energy. There are far too many things to worry about than an insecure idiot on the Internet. Have a block and seriously, stop and chill.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 days ago* (3 children)

    'just become a ceo bro'

    it's so easy. just start your own company with 500K of startup capital!

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  • [–] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Very odd. You can move into management. You can learn project management. You can do SOMETHING that makes you stand out from others. Not sure why you went with such an example.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago* (1 child)

    Not everyone can move infinitely upwards.

    you realize that, right? only a select few people get those positions.

    most people do not have the skills, talent, or drive to attain these things, nor should they. most people will cap out in their career in their 30s/40s. and most people will never even be middle management.

    because that's how numbers work. for each project there is one lead, and several people below them.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 days ago

    Truly it is far harder to get into CompSci than it is to get into management. I am speaking as an IT Director. And I am not suggesting that everyone can do these things, the point is that people need to diversify their skills and do something that sets them apart from the typical profile. Notably, I keep seeing conversations about age discrimination in other threads and am convinced that it is in great part because many people don't find ways to keep growing.

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