Oh yeah, because US car companies are NOT subsidized at all /s

And yet even at 2-3x the price, the Chinese EVs provide a better value than the handful of the American options they would compete against.

This SUV would be competing with the likes of a high end EV option like Lucid or Tesla. The Lucid Gravity starts a around $70k, and the Tesla Model X (now discontinued) was around $92k.

The Xiaomi SU7 (the car the Ford CEO has driven since 2024, despite being banned in the US) starts at $32k and clearly is targeted to compete the Porsche Taycan at $112k.

The vehicle in this article has heated floors, a projector, a pop-up roof, a fridge, swiveling seats, and over 1,000 miles of range. Functions western companies consider "luxury" are basically just standard in the Chinese market like heated and ventilated seats. They don't even bother to advertise things like that because it's a minimum expectation. There are zero western options that come close to something like that. The options available in the US suck, even taking industry subsidies into account.

Chinese cars are heavily subsidized by the state

Detroit has received $88B in subsidies and loans since 2008. That's why we have so many cheap EV options?

Frankly, american cars could use a knockdown. Tesla was our only real hope, and we would have glided into a strong Tesla and EV empire if conservative dems didn't bail out GM, Chrysler, and Ford. Additionally, Tesla wouldn't have been in a position to get bought by a dumb nazi.

I'd say, let their stuff in. Lets get some good cheap and subsidizes vehicles from China on the condition that they don't raise car prices by more than 2% a year.

American companies will more than likely fall on their face and hopefully die. Making room for a new american car company to take their place.

American car companies (and American built cars) get subsidies from the US, Canada, and Mexico as all three form a single manufacturing chain. They simply have had a different set of priorities that allowed newcomers to eat their lunch, like it happens to any complacent industry.

Chinese cars are heavily subsidized by the state. The reason they're so cheap is because China bets it can squeeze the competition

Used to be, to get them going, robotics, innovation and vertical integration is most of the reason now. An example, BYD have their own roro ships and have ordered another 10,

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/byd-orders-10-more-car-carriers-export-push-accelerates

and the new ships will be built in China

they make their own batteries, electric motors etc and have massive robotic assembly plants.

To suggest the reason why is because it's not a level playing field is ludicrous, the US spends many billions subsidizing car manufacturers on top of the billions us consumers spend in subsidizing them. directly.

Corrupted by the oil industry and colluding together would be a better term. Someone please stop China, they are destroying the "EVs are luxury vehicles only" gimmick.

Well I wouldn’t say they’re all incompetent but look at how glacial all the “traditional” car companies have become. These guys are innovating at a speed never seen before while your traditional car manufacturers are stumbling over themselves trying to keep up.

On the german side, just take a look at BMW and how long it took for them to come up with a competent electric platform. They just got their first car on a good platform (the new X3). Mercedes still doesn’t have a good EV, and neither does Audi. Their etron is outdated.

Moving to the Japanese brands. I know Toyota isn’t focused on EVs at all and their hybrid is top notch so they’re one of the better ones out there. But no one else is even close. Not in terms of value for money. Not in terms of tech.

The only ones that get close are Tesla because, like the Chinese, they’re running their car companies like tech companies and not car companies.

Well, in Germany VW (the second largest automobile manufacturer in the world) now is laying off a significant portion of their employees, closing factories and even selling them off to US/Israeli weapons manufacturers. Their head also already signaled VW is being open to switch to weapons manufacturing. Pretty sure other German brands are in similar peril.

Traditional manufacturers are dead.

The US is too busy licking other corps boots. They do not have enough funds to do it for everyone.

They'd probably need to tax the rich a significant amount of money to do that.

They tried when Japanese cars became popular for being efficient, the US car companies preferred to pretty much abandon the rest of the world and keep the government money.