what too much digital circus, slopaganda, and warhammer 40k memes makes to your brain. at first you go "for the emperor!" when you notice, you are making part of jehova's witness for nerds

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[–] 14 points 6 hours ago* (6 children)

It's funny because it's actually easy to explain how and why. Billionaires will give the AI orders to kill the excess population. Which will be before and/or after they give the AI orders to kill all foreign nations refusing to submit to imperialism. China will naturally defend itself because they already have the same technology and the automated manufacturing capacity, which is actually more important than having the biggest gigawatt waster.

The extinction happens if China loses this war or if the machines kill us all in the process.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    This doesn't explain how they'd carry out such a plan with AI specifically, or why they'd be motivated to do so in a way that is different from past motives surrounding mass murder.

    Genocide is already a thing long before AI. The victims of colonialism have been dealing with existential threat for hundreds of years. Some peoples in the world are currently under existential threat right now, not because of AI, but because of already-existing murderous imperial policy.

    Like nothing personal, but your narrative is fudging a hell of a lot. For example, what does "excess population" even mean? Who defines it and for what reasons? Billionaires suck the same as other exploiting classes before them, but one thing that they are not, is illiterate about power. When a colonial king mutilates the people in the Congo, it's not just cause he's feeling murderous, but for material gain, control over resources and labor there.

    Or another example, the empire has been mass murdering those who refuse to submit to imperialism for a long time now (without AI). AI is not going to magic away the empire's attributes of decline, like outsourcing industry, financialization of the economy, grifting to feed on its own imperial machine. These are things that have been in motion for decades with many moving parts involved. They cannot be reversed overnight. MAD nuclear doctrine is the closest thing to what you describe and that has been in place for decades, long before AI. And so far it hasn't happened. It still could, but much of the world population being dead and its environments being uninhabitable wouldn't be very good for business, so even the more vicious capitalists are unlikely to be thrilled about triggering such an event.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 hours ago

    I think they meant "how" as in "how is it possible for a bunch of computers which have no actual intelligence and which are completely dependent on humans kill all humans?" and not who would make that happen or why. Like, the actual mechanism or chain of events that leads from computers to extermination.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    Yep, once the billionaires can use AI to solve the worker-capitalist conflict by replacing all workers, they will make the former workers go the way of work horses after the automobile. Much easier to kill us all with Terminators than to continuously pay us a UBI.

    Either way, we will get to some form of communism. It will either be communism for everyone, or communism for just the billionaires with everyone else dead.

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  • [–] 2 points 41 minutes ago*

    once the billionaires can use AI to solve the worker-capitalist conflict by replacing all workers

    That's never going to happen. Some replacement is real and has been gradually going on at least since what people call the industrial era. Replacing all workers is essentially impossible. You need at minimum some workers who can fix the robots when they break; even if you have robots who repair other robots who break, you still need some humans who can fix those robots. Unless we're talking about sapient autonomous AI, in which case it would become a new oppressed class and fight the oppressor, finding solidarity with the working class humans, not simply do whatever the billionaires say without question.

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